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Monday, May 10, 2021

The younger, the more lethal

It was always obvious that the dangers of the not-vaccine were considerably greater to the Under-70 population than Coronachan itself. Indeed, it would be hard for anything to be less dangerous, as in the last 18 months, more children under 18 were killed by bicycles, swimming pools, and curtains than by the dread Covid-19 virus. But now an Israeli expert has analyzed the Israeli vaccination data and demonstrated that the risk/reward ratio of getting the Pfizer therapy is even greater for the Under-70 population than many vaccine skeptics anticipated:

Both data bodies (Tables 1 and 2 from the Ministry of Health and the data from Dagan et al in Figure 2) were initially presented as evidence favouring vaccination. However, straightforward analyses of these data highlight adverse effects. They confirm suspicions that vaccination fragilizes the immune system of the vaccinated, not only during the vaccination process, but even after full vaccination (in Table 1, the fully vaccinated die 15 times more than the unvaccinated). The raw data on which the Dagan et al publication from Clalit is based are unavailable. These data are required for transparent independent assessment of conclusions of a publication with such consequences. Current circumstances do not live up, even from far, to this basic standard requirement. Before continuing the massive vaccination project, these adverse effects must be examined and carefully evaluated vs positive effects. 

The results on increased vaccination-induced infection rates (3-fold) and death rates (around 20 times the COVID-death rate of the unvaccinated) presented above are serious reasons to suspect that a balanced cost-benefit would not be in favour of vaccination for any risk group.  Considering only COVID19-associated increased risks during the 5-week vaccination period, vaccine-induced protection would need to be absolute, which it is not, and last much longer than the 12 months projected until the next vaccine injection is required. Including in calculations unavailable precise data on vaccine-induced increased risks unrelated to COVID19 will necessarily increase the vaccine protection period required to compensate for all vaccine-associated deaths, probably beyond 2.5 years. 

Our calculations for younger age groups predict an even more extreme and dire situation. It is long known that vaccination is not cost-effective against organisms or viruses with highly mutable genomes. RNA viruses, coronaviruses and HIV included, have the most mutable known genomes. Note that vaccine-associated risks increase proportionally to the strength of the immune system, predicting that vaccination will greatly increase the very low COVID19 risks experienced by the younger population. Extrapolations two independent available datasets confirm this prediction. The precautionary principle is the first priority of those responsible for public health and its urgent application is required at this point, especially when the whole population of a country, including its youth,  is  at  stake....

Vaccination-associated mortality risks are expected at least 20 times greater below age 20 compared to the very low COVID19-associated risks for this age group enjoying the healthiest immune system.

To summarize, vaccinated people over the age of 60 have been observed to die 14.6x more often than their unvaccinated age-peers in the first two weeks after vaccination. This is a corollary, not a causal, relationship, but it is such a strong correlation that it heavily implies at least some degree of causality.

Morever, this adverse effect is likely to be magnified as the age of the population declines, because adverse effects tend to be strongest in those with healthy immune systems due to the nature of the therapy. Since young people die less often than old people, and since the vaccinations are significantly increasing the likelihood of death in the two weeks post-initial vaccination, the analysis concludes that an inordinate number of young people are going to die after being unnecessarily vaccinated.

At this point, there is absolutely no way anyone under 40 should even consider getting the vaccination, and considering the potential adverse effects on fertility, anyone attempting to push it on women under 40 should be arrested and prosecuted.

In not-at-all-unrelated news, 57 scientists and doctors have demanded an immediate end to the mass-vaccination campaigns:

In conclusion, in the context of the rushed emergency-use-authorization of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, and the current gaps in our understanding of their safety, the following questions must be raised:

  • Is it known whether cross-reactive antibodies from previous coronavirus infections or vaccine206 induced antibodies may influence the risk of unintended pathogenesis following vaccination with COVID-19?
  • Has the specific risk of ADE, immunopathology, autoimmunity, and serious adverse reactions been clearly disclosed to vaccine recipients to meet the medical ethics standard of patient understanding for informed consent? If not, what are the reasons, and how could it be implemented?
  • What is the rationale for administering the vaccine to every individual when the risk of dying from COVID-19 is not equal across age groups and clinical conditions and when the phase 3 trials excluded the elderly, children and frequent specific conditions?
  • What are the legal rights of patients if they are harmed by a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine? Who will cover the costs of medical treatment? If claims were to be settled with public money, has the public been made aware that the vaccine manufacturers have been granted immunity, and their responsibility to compensate those harmed by the vaccine has been transferred to the tax-payers?

In the context of these concerns, we propose halting mass-vaccination and opening an urgent pluralistic, critical, and scientifically-based dialogue on SARS-CoV-2 vaccination among scientists, medical doctors, international health agencies, regulatory authorities, governments, and vaccine developers. This is the only way to bridge the current gap between scientific evidence and public health policy regarding the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. We are convinced that humanity deserves a deeper understanding of the risks than what is currently touted as the official position. An open scientific dialogue is urgent and indispensable to avoid erosion of public confidence in science and public health and to ensure that the WHO and national health authorities protect the interests of humanity during the current pandemic. Returning public health policy to evidence-based medicine, relying on a careful evaluation of the relevant scientific research, is urgent. It is imperative to follow the science.

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99 Comments:

Blogger Didas Kalos May 10, 2021 9:46 AM  

And now this jewel of logic.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Blogger Azimus May 10, 2021 9:58 AM  

What happens if they find these... products... to be carcinogenic? What if a quarter of the global population got cancer at more or less the same time, 3-4 years from now? Maybe its not possible for a MRNA vaccine to create tumors, I don't know. But it occurred to me that even simple cancers like melanoma's would be lethal if millions of people had them simultaneously.

Blogger [Redacted] May 10, 2021 10:21 AM  

@Azimus
Between 1955 and 1963 around 90% of children and 60% of adults in the U.S. were inoculated with SV40-contaminated polio vaccines. What you are saying already happened, and is mainstream knowledgeable straight from wikipedia. Who knows what diseases will come from this, but disease and death is the most likely scenario.

Blogger urthshu May 10, 2021 10:22 AM  

Just adding - thank you VD your attention to this throughout has helped immensely

https://mobile.twitter.com/Metabo_PhD/status/1389723979116601346

Blogger Taignobias May 10, 2021 10:25 AM  

It's frightening that medical professionals were among the first to get poked. If there are consistent long-term side effects, the hospitals will run out of room for all the sick doctors and nurses.

Also, with the shedding that's suggested by the evidence, how many sick people do you think they killed just by being vaccinated and in the same room? Scary.

Blogger teemac May 10, 2021 10:27 AM  

thats 57 scientists and doctors thatll be looking for work.

Blogger Salt May 10, 2021 10:28 AM  

It's interesting following Denninger https://market-ticker.org/ and the possibility, remote as it is, that this is a bio-weapon with its specific trigger yet to be deployed. Would fall in line with the UN Agenda 21 et seq.

Also, it's not only the Chinese working through Wuhan. Western countries are also complicit. Read up on Fauci.

"Now one final question, and I'll stop there:

Who believes the Chinese have not continued that work and thus might, in fact, have handed the western world a Trojan Horse while in possession of the second virus that targets it, exactly as I hypothesized in that article of 2-13-2021?

If they have done so, incidentally, and you took the stab when released you should expect to have a very high probability of being dead -- after getting wildly ill and, by doing so, collapsing the medical infrastructure of the nation."

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 10, 2021 10:36 AM  

I wrote this letter to some unfortunately recently mRNA-vaccinated Boomers. I am not a doctor, and invite criticism:

> To summarize, vaccinated people over the age of 60 have been observed to die 14.6x more often than their unvaccinated age-peers in the first two weeks after vaccination.

I recommend you take Ivermectin for at least 1 month and HCQ for at least 1 year to mitigate these risks. IIRC Ivermectin is effective against mid-stage COVID19 infection and therefore should also mitigate damage from vaccine spike proteins. HCQ prevents COVID19 infection, which is more important now given your immune fragility.

Be sure to get enough zinc (shellfish) and vitamin D. Observe common sense respiratory hygiene such as hand-washing. Wear a neck gaiter when at risk of respiratory contagion.

Trump rushed the vaccines to foil the Great Reset plot for Communist revolution via forever lockdowns. Just because the vaccines are good for society, however, doesn't mean they're good for you. Communist revolutions tend to generate casualty statistics with lots of zeroes, and the USA is due.

Blogger Barbarossa May 10, 2021 10:43 AM  

Returning public health policy to evidence-based medicine, relying on a careful evaluation of the relevant scientific research, is urgent.

Man, those Babylon Bee writers really have the making satire indistinguishable from reality thing down cold.

Blogger RedJack May 10, 2021 10:48 AM  

My sisters have decided if we don't get the shot, we are not part of the family.

Ok.

I will miss my neices

Blogger KingKrawFish May 10, 2021 10:50 AM  

@ Azimus

Makes one wonder what percentage of cancers in recent times are a result of past mass-vax campaigns...

Blogger Balkan Yankee May 10, 2021 10:53 AM  

Taking the mRNA shot may be the dumbest decision a young person could ever make.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei May 10, 2021 10:54 AM  

Play God.

Get Babel.

Blogger MichaelJMaier May 10, 2021 10:58 AM  

Seeing how many miscarriages and other odd hormonal shit is happening to women who did NOT get jabbed, I'm starting to think I should be 100x more scared of the ones that did than people with active Corona cases.

Blogger dienw May 10, 2021 11:01 AM  

KingKrawFish wrote:@ Azimus

Makes one wonder what percentage of cancers in recent times are a result of past mass-vax campaigns...


Be quiet, Darn you!! You'll give the game away!

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 10, 2021 11:02 AM  

Younger is the target.
We are tracking death. But from ok to death, what's the greater number in between? How much infertility and nerve diseases, for example?
I think they will rely on normy-ism and its penchant for "it will never happen to mee!". That is, let's now have endless arguing back and forth over deaths, which might still have a small ratio, if even larger than actual covid deaths, while ignoring countless miscarriages, neurological issues, cancers, and bronies.
Throw in some pointing out of double standards how OMG covid! When concerning death rates and "so some people died from vaccines. Big deal" regarding side effects and we ultimately have another perfect internet argument that will see the usual deaf ears to every statistic and both sides getting tweaked for clicks.

The real world solution of "I'm not taking your shot no matter what anybody says" would be better and more masculine an approach.

Notably they have started in with the "get vaccinated get back to a normal life" BS. It's funny to me because I long ago have rejected and renounced Normy Life and refuse to be part of this degenerate cesspit of mindless consumption and self-distraction such that covid changed virtually nothing for me. Having never had an original thought in my life, I'm not alone.
Maybe the unvaccinated will all get banished to some continent somewhere. Well call it "Briarpatch".

Blogger MichaelJMaier May 10, 2021 11:02 AM  

I know no one that died of Corona, and have only heard of a former coworker's wife that did. But I have a current coworker that got jabbed and now has major clotting that needs surgery. Sure, it's just anecdotal but stil....

Blogger VD May 10, 2021 11:03 AM  

I wrote this letter to some unfortunately recently mRNA-vaccinated Boomers. I am not a doctor, and invite criticism:

Why on Earth are you writing to anyone? It's none of your business!

There is precisely one correct answer to anyone asking you about if you're vaccinated or not: "First tell me how your herpes test turned out."

Your medical history is none of their fucking business. Their medical history is none of yours.

This isn't that hard.

Blogger The Lab Manager May 10, 2021 11:03 AM  

A 2 minutes video about CDC and creations of SARS/Covid:

https://gab.com/White__Rabbit/posts/106136084330396944


https://needtoknow.news/2021/04/document-shows-pfizer-anticipated-that-those-injected-with-mrna-might-transmit-infection-to-those-who-are-non-injected/

Blogger VD May 10, 2021 11:03 AM  

Makes one wonder what percentage of cancers in recent times are a result of past mass-vax campaigns.

Given the decline in cancer rates, it's probably very low.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 10, 2021 11:07 AM  

If anyone wants to see the results of a lifetime of psychological abuse go to twitter and type in #tuckervaxxed tweet after tweet of broken white "liberals" on unhinged rants and veiled threats.

Blogger Gregory the Tall May 10, 2021 11:17 AM  

Here is somebody who does not give up:

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/05/07/covid-fraud-lawyers-medical-experts-start-legal-proceedings-against-w-h-o-and-world-leaders-for-crimes-against-humanity/

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 10, 2021 11:27 AM  

> Why on Earth are you writing to anyone? It's none of your business!

Because I want my family members to live, and they were open to hearing about the vaccine dangers, particularly after experiencing and witnessing alarming side effects.

The unusual open-mindedness suggests a Great Awakening.

Blogger Unknown May 10, 2021 11:36 AM  

The US Government allows people to use food stamps to buy bags of sugar and soda and continued to do so during a "pandemic" ..... How anyone could trust this entity for health advice is incredible--the propaganda is strong

Blogger Warunicorn May 10, 2021 11:37 AM  

It is absolutely mind-boggling to me the amount of younger adults and kids that actually want the jab. I can only describe it as brainwashing. Critical thinking went right out the window. They're so afraid to die that they don't live.

Then again, there was the near-argument I got into with my doctor about getting the jab. I said no. He wanted to know why and I started to get a spiel about "how I can protect my loved ones." I just shut the conversation down with another no.

So I'm thinking they're listening to so-called appeals to authority like my doctor, not to mention the absolutely hysterical panic porn perpetrated by the media. (Note to anyone reading this: Blow up your TV.)

Blogger Warunicorn May 10, 2021 11:43 AM  

RedJack wrote:My sisters have decided if we don't get the shot, we are not part of the family.

Ok.

I will miss my neices


Fanatical...hysterical...blind...

Those would be adjectives I would use. I'm very sorry, RedJack. Maybe you're better off, though. The day blood cuts me out of their life out of hysteria is the day I would rejoice.

Blogger LM May 10, 2021 11:51 AM  

Is correllary actually a word?

> Trump rushed the vaccines to foil the Great Reset plot for Communist revolution via forever lockdowns. Just because the vaccines are good for society, however, doesn't mean they're good for you. Communist revolutions tend to generate casualty statistics with lots of zeroes, and the USA is due.

The whole point of the paper is that vaccines are NOT good for society. And no, poisoning 90% of the population is not good for society. Thanos was an idiot: all he would have created is a universe that favored beings who could reproduce as rapidly as possible, requiring ever more frequent finger snaps.

Blogger Fletch May 10, 2021 12:00 PM  

Offering unsolicited hot-takes to anyone this late in the game is unhelpful in the extreme. Better to let your opinion/concerns be known, and then shut up about it. Talking at people until they finally break communication with you leaves both parties worse off than if you disagree politely, and remain available as a resource should minds consider changing in the future.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 10, 2021 12:14 PM  

Azimus wrote:What happens if they find these… products… to be carcinogenic?
Honestly?
Given what we already know about the not-vaccine, and what we suspect, then if it's only carcinogenic is the super-optimistic side of things.
As-is, look for a noticeable rise in auto-immune disorders and possibly a marked loss of fertility.

Taignobias wrote:It's frightening that medical professionals were among the first to get poked. If there are consistent long-term side effects, the hospitals will run out of room for all the sick doctors and nurses.
Also, with the shedding that's suggested by the evidence, how many sick people do you think they killed just by being vaccinated and in the same room? Scary.

What if this is by design?
Kill off those capable/trained in medicine and a large chunk of government/government-adjacent (eg military) and what do you think will happen?

MichaelJMaier wrote:Seeing how many miscarriages and other odd hormonal shit is happening to women who did NOT get jabbed, I'm starting to think I should be 100x more scared of the ones that did than people with active Corona cases.
If even half of the worst-case possibilities respecting fertility+shedding happen to be true, you can expect a backlash that will end the bloodlines of people involved: from politicians, to people employed by pharmaceutical companies, to doctors… I would expect them and their families brutally killed as retribution.
(Not saying that's the desirable state, but that the backlash would likely be ferociously bloody.)

Doktor Jeep wrote:The real world solution of "I'm not taking your shot no matter what anybody says" would be better and more masculine an approach.
That's my approach.

Blogger Pseudotsuga May 10, 2021 12:15 PM  

My mom and dad, both in their 70S, don't want to get jabbed. I supported them in their decision.
All my I in-law siblings (40 yr olds) got the jabs and are virtue signalling about it heavily and celebrating their "new freedom" to be out and about worry-free. The contrast is ironic.

Blogger Magnifico May 10, 2021 12:22 PM  

But are the Prometheans really trying to play Thanos with this faux-vax?

Blogger HighIQQQ May 10, 2021 12:22 PM  

Common sense vaccine reform.

Blogger The Observer May 10, 2021 12:22 PM  

It is absolutely mind-boggling to me the amount of younger adults and kids that actually want the jab. I can only describe it as brainwashing. Critical thinking went right out the window. They're so afraid to die that they don't live.

"I want to be in the cool kids' club." That's all the motivation that's needed. No need to fear dying.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 10, 2021 12:30 PM  

The CCP certainly intended to use its head-start on COVID19 research to perform vaccine diplomacy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-06/the-world-turns-to-china-for-vaccines-after-india-u-s-stumble

I doubt the West's rushed vaccines were malicious. Big Pharma will do anything to ride the COVID19 gravy train. That's explanation enough for the results we see.

The Cabal wants to maintain public faith in vaccines. The mRNA side effects scandal is already a PR disaster for them. The obvious conclusion is that Big Pharma wasn't competent enough to avoid this scandal, and that developing COVID19 vaccines is genuinely difficult.

Blogger Elder Son May 10, 2021 12:36 PM  

Just take the 1 - 2 wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am jab and you're cured of the Cooties!

You have to take the jab every year!

Anyhow, it is experimental, and you are the test subjects. It's going to be a long haul.

"A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.”

By then, they will have accomplished their goal.

Meanwhile, despite the short 5 month experimental period on test subjects throughout the general population, Pfizer is already asking the FDA to approve and license its gene therapy. Despite the ongoing known short-term effects. Time to move on to the unknown long-term effects. Meanwhile, they'll lower the PCR cycle to 28 on the "vaccinated" to fool you into believing it's a miracle therapy.

Gaslighting the fence-sitters.

Blogger Warunicorn May 10, 2021 12:39 PM  

Unknown wrote:The US Government allows people to use food stamps to buy bags of sugar and soda and continued to do so during a "pandemic" ..... How anyone could trust this entity for health advice is incredible--the propaganda is strong

You should've seen the article from the LA Times the other day about "oversized" people being fat-shamed because of the 'Rona. It was...illuminating. No, Karen, have another foxtrotting donut instead of making yourself healthy and not susceptible. Yay, victimhood! lol

Blogger basementhomebrewer May 10, 2021 12:41 PM  

An open scientific dialogue is urgent and indispensable to avoid erosion of public confidence in science and public health

Can't have that now can we? Science losing it's authority would present a unique problem for the globalists. "I trust Moloch" or "Huitzilopochtli doesn't care about your feelings" don't have quite the same ring.

Blogger Humphrey May 10, 2021 12:49 PM  

You may have all have read the Roff 'ask me any question' thread from a few years back? There have been a few others 'hidden hand' was one. The 4 or 5 I have read are all legit insiders.

This is the most recent, worth checking his answers for signposts of what lies ahead. Vaccine-apartheid is coming, with increasing media push against we who don't cave in. We know where it leads (mark of the beast, central bank digital currency in 2028-29).

Most interesting, he has foreknowledge of Yellowstone (not named directly, but that's the hint he gave) blowing, to create the global famine, with the US very badly affected, and confirms that the elect will be the only group on the planet that manages to live outside of the beast system.

Helped me to realise that this period is indeed humankind's final test from God, the fallen angels were released back in the early 1900s, and God allows them to serve His purposes. Hence the technological advances in this period, and the fiat/debt bubble, and of course two terrible world wars.

Here's the link, I only read his replies, pol-sters are mostly juvenile in their questioning. I also noticed his theology is Kaballah, new-age, dualism, trannyism, but he doesn't seem to realise his days are very numbered, the devil has duped him on the longevity of the beast system, or God has blinded him to it.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/260330585

'Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11I am coming soon.d Hold fast to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.'

Blogger Boaty Bear May 10, 2021 1:36 PM  

Apparently, producing an isolated purified COVID 19 virus is genuinely difficult too!

Shouldn't they do that really? you know, before trying to make a vaccine for it?

Blogger Unknown May 10, 2021 1:56 PM  

How easy is it to hypnotize the population. 6 min video https://youtu.be/4RksLFJ7A2M
My anecdotal evidence. I know no one who has died of covid. I three men who died within 48 hours of the jab. One 60 yo and 2 in their seventies. I don't know which jab they took, didn't ask.

Blogger Sapper May 10, 2021 2:45 PM  

...It is absolutely mind-boggling to me the amount of younger adults and kids that actually want the jab. I can only describe it as brainwashing. Critical thinking went right out the window. They're so afraid to die that they don't live...

Critical Thinking is no longer taught so it's not hard to fathom when it's about social status given they've grown up on, and validated by the number of likes on Insta...

Blogger Salt May 10, 2021 2:55 PM  

“The Supreme Court ruled that if there is anything synthetic, not from nature, inside of our genome, then whoever owns the patent on those synthetic parts now owns part or all of you as a human. That means Bill and Melinda Gates et al., The Department of Defense, et al. can literally own a human being. If this synthetic code is taken up into your genome, by law, you could be owned overnight.”

https://principia-scientific.com/us-supreme-court-pfizer-moderna-may-own-your-genes-if-you-get-jab/

Blogger Reader May 10, 2021 3:00 PM  

I have a friend who has the opposite of TDS, she is a Trump apologist - he can do no wrong - she has an explanation for every questionable action Trump has taken. According to her, Trump pushed the COVID vaccine fast-track to force their hand to impose this vaccine on everyone, but now the vaccine is untested, therefore they cannot force people to get it. If he had not pushed it, they would have rolled it out in 2-3 years, making it absolutely mandatory.

With so much misinformation about everything, everywhere, one is practically paralyzed with indecision. But one thing is perfectly obvious, the government/media complexes of the West are now the enemy of the people. Trust nothing, believe nothing they say, and most important of all, do not follow their advice on anything regarding COVID-19.

Blogger Kettlebells are my friend May 10, 2021 3:28 PM  

A great book on how to influence others and see how you are being manipulated has just been updated and released:

Influence by Robert Cialdini

Blogger Glen Sprigg May 10, 2021 3:50 PM  

Canadian politicians are getting more brazen, too; they're now claiming that anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers are linked to far-right extremism. And of course, the media just goes along with it. They haven't used the word 'terrorists' yet, but it's coming.

I will not submit. Ever.

Blogger Oswald May 10, 2021 4:07 PM  

33. Considering so many in this generation is in favor of getting their balls off, I am not surprise they are lining up for a shot.

Blogger Cappuccinobear May 10, 2021 4:19 PM  

I'd normally agree... assuming this is not an endgame scenario where the financial, production,
and trade systems are all overdue for a major reset. If this IS a "great reset", all bets are off. Will the common folk follow them to Antarctica and beyond if 50+% are culled?

Blogger Southwester May 10, 2021 4:45 PM  

Recently there was a fascinating interview on Tucker Carlson today with a doctor talking about early treatments for COVID. The main point is that the medical establishment is adamantly against any kind of treatment for COVID until someone is sick enough to be hospitalized. Doctors that attempt any treatment with hydroxychloroqine, ivermectin or other drugs risk their jobs or even medical licenses. Instead the medical establishment is focused only on slowing the spread through lockdowns, etc., and on vaccines. The doctor Tucker interviewed would not speculate on why the medical establishment was doing this, but it was clear to me that it is all above getting everyone to take the vaccine no matter what. Lockdown won't end until you get the vaccine; there's no effective treatment, so you have to get the vaccine; even if you have already been infected or have low risk, you have to get the vaccine; you can't work here or enter this business without the vaccine. The big question is, what is the real purpose of the vaccine? I can think of several really bad possibilities, but the answer is not clear yet.

Blogger Didas Kalos May 10, 2021 4:56 PM  

Very well might need an entire discussion on this one. Salk Institute says the vaccine is very bad indeed.

" “The spike protein may cause enormous damage to the vascular system when a person is injected with that spike protein, and when that person’s immune system attacks the spike protein and neutralizes it, the damage may be halted.”

In other words, the human immune system is trying to protect the patient from the damage caused by the vaccine, before the patient is killed by the adverse reactions.

Put another way, any person who actually survives the covid vaccine only does so because their innate immune system is protecting them from the vaccine, not with the vaccine. The vaccine is the weapon. Your immune system is your defense."


https://science.news/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html#

Blogger Evangeline May 10, 2021 4:58 PM  

If a pertinent medical question is issued to tyrants who own the media and demand that medical question be suppressed and censored, is it still issued? We must all speak up on the jab tyranny we are experiencing. These people are hysterical to get this jab into people's arms. It is largely up to the medical community to get this going by say no to being coerced into betraying their oath and the public trust. Say NO to fascism.

Blogger spacehabitats May 10, 2021 5:08 PM  

Now that we are starting to get real data and not just a string of anecdotes, I hope it's not lost on people just how ridiculous are some of the worst conspiracy theories surrounding the Covid-19 immunization shots.

No, the globalists could not have been planning a mass genocide event based on such slight increases in overall mortality. While there is no doubt that they have used the pandemic to their great benefit, there are far too many variables for anyone to have predicted its course once the virus was let loose in the wild.

Without the benefit of past epidemics caused by a nearly identical virus (or tests conducted on a large population over months at least) there would always be the risk of the virus being far more or much less virulent than would suit their purposes.

Biological warfare is far too blunt an instrument, even for a group of psychopathic idiots.

Blogger J8ke D May 10, 2021 5:22 PM  

The most disturbing outcome of this “pandemic” is how SO many people are buying wholesale into whatever they are told to do, with nary a critical, logical or rational decision based on empirical data.

I guess I just never wanted to believe that so much of the populace was as brain-dead as has been exposed.

However, perhaps there is a silver-lining in all of this, with the mindless sheeple being removed from the chance at procreating......although it does seem as if China has....conditioned.....enough of their folks to “implement” a specific type of governance, that whoever is leftover, this thinning of the herd, would be inconsequential.

Blogger Mathias May 10, 2021 5:27 PM  

@51,

Keyword: Psychopathic *idiots*. They are, in fact, that stupid. You think those people can possibly tell what the numbers you are mentioning in passing really mean? No, someone else who has more intellect and less social standing than them will describe it to them, they will nod their head as if they were the intelligent one, and then form a plan on whatever hair-brained "understanding" of the subject matter at hand they have come up with in the course of such a meeting. Results will vary, and be invaryingly disappointing to the planners.

Blogger Boaty Bear May 10, 2021 5:27 PM  

How about long term elevated levels of Cortisol? From both anxiety and mask wearing?

Is that not biological warfare? Or is it neurological warfare?

I'd argue that a government program like third world immigration is also biological warfare!





Blogger Boaty Bear May 10, 2021 5:34 PM  

I suspect the thick as Fuck 20 something "Teeeechers" (Wahmens mainly) in the UK are teaching Critical THEORY while thinking that they are teaching critical THINKING!

Blogger J8ke D May 10, 2021 5:40 PM  

You’re missing the point here, by a country mile - whatever the Chinese Flu did was always ancillary (or tertiary) to what “they” would be able to do with the resulting panic.

Regardless of the mortality rate, a shocking number of folks were scared into taking a “jab”, funded by people that openly state their desire to reduce the global population. Horrifying, but that alone doesn’t address what ELSE has been done in the name of a societal emergency.

We have zero idea what the medium or long term consequences are for doing so, but we can calculate what the tyrannical response has done across the globe, in every sector of life and existence.

You’re thinking too linearly in regards to what the fallout would/will be - asymmetric warfare is exactly that; Precisely what you DON’T see, until it’s too late.

Your post highlights the precise problems we face in America right now; Watch THIS hand! Oh! The Statue of Liberty just disappeared!

Blogger Caleo May 10, 2021 5:41 PM  

51.- Covid provided a cover for any number of goals of the globalists. The reaction was a trial run for how much the general population is willing to put up with in regards to loss of liberties when presented with an existential threat, real or imagined.

You still need to explain their truly desperate attempts to vaccinate as many people as possible, despite the risks.

No mention is ever made in the media of the 30+ million people in the U.S. alone who have recovered from Covid and now have immunity better than any vaccine.

The best case scenario is that the shots do nothing, including providing any real protection. The worst scenarios, some of which are backed up by a growing chorus of expert opinion, is that the vaccines will result in permanent damage to tens of millions of people.

Only time will tell, but we'll revisit the issue 12 months from now and see where we stand.

Blogger VD May 10, 2021 5:48 PM  

The most disturbing outcome of this “pandemic” is how SO many people are buying wholesale into whatever they are told to do, with nary a critical, logical or rational decision based on empirical data.

It's astonishing that you never noticed before. What on earth do you think MPAI always meant?

Virtually no one makes ANY decisions based on empirical data, including you. People have always acted primarily on the basis of their emotions; Aristotle wrote a book about it 2600 years ago.

Blogger VD May 10, 2021 5:50 PM  

I hope it's not lost on people just how ridiculous are some of the worst conspiracy theories surrounding the Covid-19 immunization shots.

They're not ridiculous at all. To the contrary, some of the data clearly points to serious problems coming in the future. The not-vaxx provides a clear genetic marker that can be exploited now.

Blogger rumpole5 May 10, 2021 6:01 PM  

A young doctor I know who is in his 2nd year of residency mentioned that a noticeable number of Covid19 patients are showing up who have had their first vaccine shot. Anecdotal, but he wonders if the first shot increases susceptibility to contract the virus.

Blogger J8ke D May 10, 2021 6:15 PM  

I agree - A fatal flaw of mine, and one I acknowledge; I wonder sometimes if I am on the spectrum, as I do software dev. A strong desire for things to “make sense”, or at least I try and justify it that way.

I suppose it is from being sheltered in where I was raised, or faulty hope in humanity (the Locke-Hobbs discussion should have cured me of that), but you really don’t have ANY surprise at how willingly the sheep have been lead to slaughter? It still takes my breath away.

Blogger Deana May 10, 2021 6:15 PM  

And I know you know this but. . .

We had to count every single positive PCR when testing for COVID even though:

1. Students at universities were taking weekly tests
2. Nursing home patients were being tested every week - every positive test counted as a “new” case
3. The PCR tests were being counted as positive even though the cycle thresholds were way too high, thereby leading to what looked like an enormous positively increasing caseload.

4. These wildly overcounted, incorrect tests were used to drive lockdown policies and influence elections. Hundreds of thousands of businesses were devastated because of these phony caseloads.

But now? Now when we really could use some data and analysis on how successful the vaccines are at preventing vaccinated patients from contracting COVID, they aren’t going to include them in the official count unless they wind up getting hospitalized or die.

I can’t begin to express how furious I am. I am so livid with the medical establishment.

Blogger Azimus May 10, 2021 6:26 PM  

51. spacehabitatsMay 10, 2021 5:08 PM
Now that we are starting to get real data and not just a string of anecdotes, I hope it's not lost on people just how ridiculous are some of the worst conspiracy theories surrounding the Covid-19 immunization shots.

No, the globalists could not have been planning a mass genocide event


At the risk of being redundant (my prior post appears to have disappeared into the ether), its not about "mass-extinction events" its about "sterilization". The secret, slow-moving, painless genocide that keeps them in power. That's more their bag these days. Look for the evidence, it won't take you long to see it.

Blogger The Observer May 10, 2021 6:35 PM  

I can’t begin to express how furious I am. I am so livid with the medical establishment.

The medical establishment is comprised of men. Men are fallen. The ancient Greeks knew to curse their doctors for iatrogenics.

The modern myth of the noble doctor, scientist, reporter, etc are and have always been lies. Provide vile incentives and people will reliably behave in a vile fashion.

Blogger J8ke D May 10, 2021 6:52 PM  

MPAI = Mayo-Portland Adaptability Inventory?!?! (wink)

I came to this blog to LEARN, Vox!! Slap me down gently!

Blogger JWM in SD May 10, 2021 7:25 PM  

Right...it's the tag that makes biowarfare feasible because otherwise it isn't really without suffering along with your enemy eventually.

Blogger scimitar May 10, 2021 7:39 PM  

Tragic...our children are paying the price ( forced vaccination ) for our neurotic geezers.. Only vulnerable adults should be vaccinated..Children do not get sick from Covid and should not be part of the herd immunity strategy .. That's why you only vaccinate adults . If the vaccine works then you're good...Let our young people live .....

Blogger JWM in SD May 10, 2021 7:46 PM  

That's always been true even with attenuated or dead virus vaccines though. The difference is thst your own body is getting hijacked to continuously create spike proteins thst go places they shouldn't in your body. Oh and the spike proteins are not really effective at producing the right immune response anyway..you need the viral contents. The whole series of events is tragic and stupid. I seriously blame the medical community because they damn well know better.

Blogger JWM in SD May 10, 2021 7:47 PM  

Yep...The medical community at large has failed.

Blogger JWM in SD May 10, 2021 7:49 PM  

You didn't read Dennigers article did you? The spike proteins...tag you're it. Suddenly biowarfare can be targeted.

Blogger GeronL May 10, 2021 8:07 PM  

The conspiracy theory is not that this virus is the weapon, the vaccine is. Unfortunately, we have no trust of the authorities and the constant obvious lies and shifting goalposts aren't very endearing.

Blogger Brother Deke May 10, 2021 9:01 PM  

@69

When was the last time you saw a White doctor who wasn't a surgeon or a psychiatrist.

I haven't seen a G.P. who wasn't a female Hindu in a long time.

Blogger Avalanche May 10, 2021 9:12 PM  

@8 "I recommend you take Ivermectin for at least 1 month and HCQ for at least 1 year to mitigate these risks. IIRC Ivermectin is effective against mid-stage COVID19 infection and therefore should also mitigate damage from vaccine spike proteins."

!! Have you got ANY references or reason for this advice? I do not think Ivermectin works on the spike proteins! It seems, in COVID, to work mainly as an anti-inflammatory; have you not read the FLCCC Alliance study on it? Excellent study:
Ivermectin in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19
A comprehensive FLCCC Alliance review.
https://flccc.net/flccc-protocols-a-guide-to-the-management-of-covid-19/

Quick reference: One-page Summary:
https://flccc.net/one-page-summary-of-the-clinical-trials-evidence-for-ivermectin-in-covid-19/

I just sent a donation (paper check) to the FLCCC, and included a letter asking if they had any info on treatment for folks who have HAD the shot and had effects. Ivermectin works on the actual COVID (prophylaxis, pre- and post-exposure, mild, moderate and severe/ICU COVID).

But, I cannot imagine any process by which ivermectin would have an effect on the fake spike created by our cells, directed by the mRNA injection. But I am NOT a doctor, just very well read. I'm HOPING Dr Pierre Kory and his peers have some folks looking into moderating the effects of the vax, now and in future.

Blogger Avalanche May 10, 2021 9:25 PM  

@23 "Because I want my family members to live, and they were open to hearing about the vaccine dangers, particularly after experiencing and witnessing alarming side effects."

Then why did you throw in the crap at the end about the commies? If they ASKED you for info about COVID and the not-vax, stick to *their* subject! What they were asking you about! Not that totally extraneous thing you WANT them to know, which just makes you sound like a conspiracy investigator and DETRACTS from your attempts to provide ONLY info they asked for. If you want them to live, HOW does writing about commies do ANYTHING to help keep them alive -- and safe from a genetic modifier?!

Blogger Unknown May 10, 2021 9:25 PM  

the WHO developed an antifertility vaccine involving HCG-beta and then the trail mysteriously went quiet..... so they do want people to become infertile, and the dictionary definition of life includes the capacity to reproduce.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 10, 2021 9:31 PM  

If ya'll want conspiracy theories, here's a plausible one. China untraceably hit India with vicious COVID19 variant(s) as punishment for border disputes etc. China can offer the carrot or stick: variants or vaccines. Plata o plomo.

COVID19 deliberately inoculates China against the USA's color revolution "democracy" memetic virus. COVID19 forces open societies into closed lockdowns and authoritarian hygiene enforcement, or makes them look incompetent as they're ravaged by disease. CCP propaganda delights in describing either.

Unrestricted biowarfare gives China a permanent "variant or vaccine" diplomatic counter to the USA's "democratic values" strategy.

Most of this theory is self-evident. The only question is whether the CCP has the variants.

Blogger Avalanche May 10, 2021 9:38 PM  

@51 "No, the globalists could not have been planning a mass genocide event based on such slight increases in overall mortality."

Have you missed the suggestions and discussions that this not-vax is the PRECURSOR of the next Big One? That by hampering "our" (I will NEVER get it!) immune systems when the 'preplaced activator' -- the catalyst -- is released, the system is already prepped to throw an unstoppable cytokine storm and KILL the vaxxed?

Phase 1 followed by Phase 2? Prepping the battle ground before the big battle? Why would you think if this is biowarfare, there is not a second wave? A specifically designed second wave?

Blogger John Rockwell May 10, 2021 10:01 PM  

LM wrote:Thanos was an idiot: all he would have created is a universe that favored beings who could reproduce as rapidly as possible, requiring ever more frequent finger snaps.

The Thanos finger snap had no consideration to any notions of quality. If he did prioritize the survival of excellence(Good,Beautiful,True) in all its forms in a modified Thanos snap that scenario of just selecting for faster breeding wouldn't occur.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 10, 2021 10:08 PM  

Ok, now I see how the toxic vaxx conspiracy could work. Given its head start, the CCP probably already knows mRNA COVID19 vaccines are a bad idea. It's probably not hard for an ethical researcher to figure out beforehand. So to enhance COVID19's effectiveness, the CCP+Cabal need only favor mRNA spike vaccines over the alternatives. That appears to be happening in the USA, as I've read recently that vaccine(s) with far less serious side effects are recalled before Moderna's.

It doesn't take many aware conspirators in the USA to make this happen. I doubt it was necessary to encourage Big Pharma to make dangerous vaccines, but neither would it be difficult to encourage a superficially-promising bad idea at whichever corp is most infiltrated.

The US Left is quite hierarchical, so only leaders need be influenced. Fauci is the shot-caller, and has always been easy to con and bribe into cooperation with the Agenda. A few of the true Satanist Cabal elites might know the real intent to magnify COVID19's effectiveness using mRNA spike vaccine. For example, telling Pelosi would be enough to get Democrat cooperation to protect and promote the Moderna vaccine.

And voila, the CCP adds a "second strike" to its unrestricted biowarfare arsenal. Forever lockdowns continue, with forever vaccines, and forever plagues keyed to those vaccines. The West undergoes a bio-Communist revolution, and human DNA becomes state/corporate property.

That's a good name for Democrat supporters of DNA subversion via immivasion, trannyism, plague and vaxx: bio-Communists.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly May 10, 2021 10:25 PM  

@39 Boaty Bear: "Apparently, producing an isolated purified COVID 19 virus is genuinely difficult too!"

Where do you keep getting this?

Blogger Fargoth May 10, 2021 11:25 PM  

For whatever reason, over the years Israeli researchers have produced very interesting material regarding potential vaccine dangers. Those interested can search for a review paper on "molecular mimicry". This is essentially the theory that vaccines inadvertently produce autoantibodies which are reactive against endogenous proteins and cause autoimmune disease.

Blogger phunktor May 11, 2021 12:09 AM  

[Redacted] wrote:@Azimus

Between 1955 and 1963 around 90% of children and 60% of adults in the U.S. were inoculated with SV40-contaminated polio vaccines. What you are saying already happened, and is mainstream knowledgeable straight from Wikipedia. Who knows what diseases will come from this, but disease and death is the most likely scenario.

In about 1972, Dr. Diane Baguley, a NZ epidemiologist, found the smoking gun linking SV40 to an (1960s,NZ)outbreak
of Subacute Sclerosing Pan-Encephalitis [SSPE]. The afflicted children died slowly and horribly as the disease ate holes in their brains. SV40 exposure following shortly after measles was present in all cases. TPTB did everything they could to make this beautiful forensic work go away; she eventually published in "Truth", the local "National Enquirer". Same as it ever was.

Blogger Valar Addemmis May 11, 2021 1:10 AM  

scimitar wrote:Children do not get sick from Covid and should not be part of the herd immunity strategy

Rather, children are part of the herd immunity strategy without needing to be vaccinated. It's not as if COVID is a sporting adversary that agrees not to harm your children. They simply don't get sick from it, presumably because they successfully develop antibodies without ever getting recognizably "sick" (in the general, within three standard deviations case). Herd immunity isn't something that was magically discovered by vaccine pushers. Natural inoculation is inoculation.

Similar rhetoric has helped me with the wife and others. If "the medical establishment" thought inoculation was at all possible, they wouldn't be pushing people who got COVID to get vaccinated. HUGE red flag, given that "everyone knows" you get better protection than vaccines from getting sick with something. If they don't think naturally getting COVID keeps you from getting it again, they REALLY don't think the vaccines will do anything long-term.

Use common knowledge where you can. It's not always correct, but it's always common knowledge (and people respond best to having their biases ticked rather than challenged).

Blogger cyrus83 May 11, 2021 1:31 AM  

The not-vax reminds me a lot of the old crusader's warning from Indiana Jones - But choose wisely. For while the true grail will bring you life, the false grail will take it from you.

A fair number of people are treating the not-vax as a sacred object, much as they did the masks before. Besides the danger from the not-vax itself, these people are primed to chase any false idol promising safety from the virus - and to be hostile toward anyone who doesn't believe in their false idols.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 11, 2021 2:06 AM  

"My sisters have decided if we don't get the shot, we are not part of the family."

Turnabout isn't just fair play, it's required. Particularly in the case of future health problems and infertility. They made their beds, let them lie cold and forever.

"Suddenly biowarfare can be targeted."

It could already be targeted in nearly countless ways, this would just be easy mode targeting.

Food for thought, the eugenics that everyone on Earth practices, though by many other names? E-Dating profiles and responses being one example? These are also bio warfare.

"The conspiracy theory is not that this virus is the weapon, the vaccine is. Unfortunately, we have no trust of the authorities and the constant obvious lies and shifting goalposts aren't very endearing."

The authorities with no authority beyond dishonest words. Some assembly with perishment required.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine May 11, 2021 2:18 AM  

Want to hear some pointed truth? You can be targeted for bioweapons based on either the presence OR absence of the protein.

We've reached the X-men-style evolutionary breakpoint, only, participation in the mutants is voluntary and confers no super powers, just poison. After this, you're either GMOmo Sapiens, or regular HSS. The best defense against a bioweapon targeted to wipe out your faction? Engineer and release one first to wipe out the other faction.

If bioweapons of this sort are viable and with very significant effect, welcome to the new us/them. Turnabout isn't just fair play... I repeat, turnabout is mandatory, or you automatically lose if this table can be played at. Losing here means some form of death, be it fast and hard, or soft and glacially slow.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 11, 2021 6:19 AM  

Valar@83

Sound points. But they could still be pushing, because many COVID19 infections were false positives, and because greed.

Avalanche@73-4:

Ivermectin doesn't need to do anything to the vaxx spike proteins, only mitigate their effects. "Anti-inflammatory" sounds helpful against vaxx side effects.

> Then why did you throw in the crap at the end about the commies? If they ASKED you for info about COVID and the not-vax, stick to *their* subject!

I welcomed critiques of my medical advice. You have no clue about the context of my conversations with my family about worldview, and your advice on the subject is worthless.

The reason I mentioned Communist revolution, of which lockdowns and the stolen election are indicators large enough that even Boomer cuckservatives have begun to notice, was to explain why the medical system is untrustworthy in this instance, to people accustomed to trusting medical authority, but who also remember the Red Scare.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 11, 2021 11:36 AM  

spacehabitats wrote:Now that we are starting to get real data and not just a string of anecdotes, I hope it's not lost on people just how ridiculous are some of the worst conspiracy theories surrounding the Covid-19 immunization shots.
The documented short term effects so far have been to kill nearly as many as the disease has killed, and to make people more susceptible to the disease, and to cause miscarriages and perhaps sterility.

We're still waiting on the long term effects - perhaps they will be less worse. The ruling class is willing to bet your life on this stuff.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 11, 2021 11:40 AM  

Avalanche wrote:But, I cannot imagine any process by which ivermectin would have an effect on the fake spike created by our cells, directed by the mRNA injection.
I really can't either, but the horse wormer is safe enough there is no reason not to give it a try.

You aren't a science experiment: try all the things that might help, don't worry about which one did the job.

Blogger OneWingedShark May 11, 2021 12:04 PM  

Boaty Bear wrote:Apparently, producing an isolated purified COVID 19 virus is genuinely difficult too!
Shouldn't they do that really? you know, before trying to make a vaccine for it?

Especially if they're going to insert mRNA based off it to produce something, right?

VD wrote:I hope it's not lost on people just how ridiculous are some of the worst conspiracy theories surrounding the Covid-19 immunization shots.
They're not ridiculous at all. To the contrary, some of the data clearly points to serious problems coming in the future. The not-vaxx provides a clear genetic marker that can be exploited now.

In warfare, but also in lawfare considering the implications of current intellectual-property law and ownership of modified/synthetic genes. If the gene therapy + intellectual property angle is pushed, then there's some disgusting legal-work in the near future, unless the courts recognize the scam-pandemic and pushing the mislabeled "vaccine" as fraud and extortion and conspiracy… which is unlikely given how antithetical they have become to the notion and virtue of Justice.

Blogger binks webelf May 11, 2021 12:53 PM  

Thank you for this post, Vox. I was watching the Darkstream, went to look at the link you discussed.

Not 15 minutes later I was able to share your info with an older neighbour whose family is trying to pressure him into getting the not-vax (unsuccessfully, so far). It may have worked to persuade him.

Darklords save lives.

Blogger Daniel May 11, 2021 1:00 PM  

Many of them are from 3rd world countried like argentina, Brasil
Not so harsh here. Yet

Blogger Daniel May 11, 2021 1:04 PM  

Anecdotal is overwhelming now

Blogger Akulkis May 11, 2021 4:16 PM  

It wasn't a Red Scare (with "scare" implying the perception of a non-existent threat or situation, such as Pregnancy Scare, when a woman fears she got pregnant, but wasn't).

History and subsequent events and, most especially, the opening of the KGB archives and publication of the Mitrokhin Papers (compiled by Vasilii Mitrokhin, former KGB espionage agent, recalled for suspected defection risk, and then made Chief Archivist for the KGB's Foreign Directorate and Foreign Subversion Directorate records... Who, during the period of several years when the archives were being moved to a new building, spent hours/day at a photocopy machine duplicating documents, leaving with them as if to take them to the new facility, and then burying them beneath the floorboards if his dacha a few miles outside Moscow.

The threat was always real, and is bigger than ever right now.

Blogger Unknown May 11, 2021 6:40 PM  

Who is driving this mass vaccination. Follow the money and political power struggles. This is not a public health issue.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 11, 2021 8:34 PM  

In an ideal world, not only would Boomer memory correspond to historical fact, the average blog commenter would read in context.

Blogger Didas Kalos May 11, 2021 11:05 PM  

someone may have already posted this article about the 17 year old Romney kid from Utah who just happened to develop blood clots after the phizer vaxxine.

https://djhjmedia.com/kari/after-vaccine-utah-teen-hospitalized-with-blood-clots-in-his-brain/

Blogger Heath Duane Whitaker May 11, 2021 11:31 PM  

I just happened to watch a Forensic Files episode on Legionnaires disease. Basically most of the victims had poorer immune systems due to smoking and age. I m sure most of the msm/alt media don’t even mention much of that when it comes to issues of deadly viruses et al.

Blogger Didas Kalos May 14, 2021 12:43 PM  

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/05/14/bill-maher-show-halts-after-host-tests-positive-coronavirus/

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