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Monday, June 07, 2021

A generational test

 A Boomer doesn't understand why his g-g-generation is held in such open contempt by the younger generations:

I’m not sure I understand. As a 69-year old boomer, I don’t know any boomer of my acquaintance who wouldn’t, and hasn’t, tried to help his children and grandchildren in any way he can, whether with time or money, or any other way.

Very well. I think we can solve this conundrum. Ask yourself these four questions, Boomer:

  1. On average, how many days per year did you see your grandparents as a child?
  2. How many days per year do you see your grandchildren?
  3. What did you inherit from your father and grandfather?
  4. In real terms, do you expect to leave more to each and every child and grandchild than you received, or less.
Of course there will be outliers, so keep in mind that general attitudes are usually derived from relative averages. I wonder what the over/under on "but... but.. times were different and I don't even live in the same state as my grandkids" will be?
In light of the usual responses from Boomers about this subject being inspired by personal issues and projecting their own historic hostility for their parents and everyone else over thirty onto me, I should like to take this opportunity to point out that my parents are not Boomers and neither am I.


UPDATE: Boomers are so wicked and stupid that some of them are even trying to claim that Generation X was the "Me Generation". From Wikipedia:

The "Me" generation is a term referring to Baby Boomers in the United States and the self-involved qualities that some people associate with it. The 1970s were dubbed the "Me decade" by writer Tom Wolfe; Christopher Lasch was another writer who commented on the rise of a culture of narcissism among the younger generation of that era. The phrase caught on with the general public, at a time when "self-realization" and "self-fulfillment" were becoming cultural aspirations to which young people supposedly ascribed higher importance than social responsibility.

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Blogger Cloudbuster June 07, 2021 8:14 AM  

How many days per year do you see your grandchildren?

A pretty common phenomenon I've seen around me is Boomer grandparents who did such an awful job raising their own kids that their kids were utterly incapable of being parents, so now they are raising their grandkids for their absent, incompetent kids. Of course, that's bound to end well, given how much they screwed up the first time.

Blogger Rocklea Marina June 07, 2021 8:16 AM  

I predict close to 200+ comments. Anti-Boomer posts are Boomer catnip. It is not necessarily related to the Boomer qua Boomer and it is the same reason people don't walk away from Twitter and Facebook, despite not being welcome.

Blogger GeronL June 07, 2021 8:20 AM  

On the positive side: Boomers knew what bathroom to use.

Blogger CarpeOro June 07, 2021 8:22 AM  

I'm pretty sure the bumper sticker "Take a cab, let your heirs walk" was thought up by a boomer.

Blogger cheddarman June 07, 2021 8:23 AM  

Gas the boomers

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 07, 2021 8:23 AM  

Take the over, Boomerwaffen here 1,2,3 fail on our part. Question 4 easily blow that out of the water, what I got in inheritance was nice but with judicious investment and going with quality over quantity in the descendant department or at least we want to believe that the family will inherit quite a bit.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 07, 2021 8:32 AM  

Oh, I win this one. My family? Stepmothers score. Three generations of men have arranged their finances to leave nothing to their children and everything to the spouse left holding the bag when they die. The spouses "love" them, after all.

My personal favorite one didn't pay for his children's college, his college was paid for by his father, who was blue collar. Then the blue collar, now grandfather, raised the kids while the man 'built his career'- divorced, swanned around with women of low character. When he gave his kids money, considered it a loan. So blue collar kids are paying for his and his new wife's retirement in a very nice, historic house in a very nice part of a very white, very safe town. He's "woke" and "very liberal" which means he is far, far, far more virtuous than his racist children who actually attended integrated, majority minority, public schools.

The really sad part about this is that this also describes all of my friends' lives, too. It's just a matter of degree, not a matter of kind.

They don't even wonder why their kids struggle. They just kindly tell their kids they are obviously not as smart or special, the evidence is that the kids struggle in life for at least a decade.

The Prodigal Son is their parable- go out, get drunk, go home and get a party. Inheritance? Why not use it to party?

Of course, I don't wish Corona-Vax strokes on these people because they have ambulance services on speed dial. They'd spend 10 years on a ventilator as a vegetable rather than head straight to hell.

Blogger Nate June 07, 2021 8:54 AM  

as always... people see GenX contempt for Boomers and thing we are raging at our parents.

We aren't. Boomers didn't raise Gen X. Silents raised GenX. Boomers raised the Millennials... and it shows... and GenX is raising Gen Z.

Blogger Army of the Unborn June 07, 2021 8:56 AM  

His response also highlights the myopic narcissism of the boomers.

I have exactly one family member that identifies himself as a baby boomer (my father), and he lives in another state and has met his 16 month old grandchild a total of once. The 3 other grandparents are literally moving across the country to be in their grandchild’s life and probably couldn’t even tell you how old baby boomers are.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 07, 2021 8:57 AM  

I was so happy to see the GenZyklon meme.

My kids, when they are ready, only get alt-right publications, when I buy media. I gave out Arkhaven comics to their friends, the first Christmas they were available.

Blogger Jim M June 07, 2021 9:00 AM  

Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you. All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me. If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block. Gender studies is not a degree but an activity that takes place in the back seat of a car. I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends. Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society.

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde June 07, 2021 9:09 AM  

My parents were silently. I met my paternal grandfather once but was only two and don't remember it. His wife died before I was born and I never met my paternal grandmother. My parents divorced. I inherited about 150k from my father who left about 80 percent to his second wife. He left me to care for my mother after their divorce and never seemed to have any remorse for his selfishness. I carried that burden for about 30 years. I am a millionaire now, despite all of these stones in my path and would have been far better off if my parents had not divorced. My maternal grandparents saw me when I lived in Germany twice as a child nearly daily and on a few visits later on. I married and had children late in life. My kids are 6 and 3 respectively and I am 59. Because of my father, I make every effort to be close to my children and see them all day now. I intend to leave them enough to live on without me as well as to teach them how to run a business rather than waste s lot of money ona commie university. I hope to buy them both houses as well. I live for my kids and don't want them cursing me as I curse my parents today. My neighbors are boomer retirees. They have a grandson who is about 8. They have the boy over about every 6 months or so. His father died a few years ago but I don't know why. These neighbors have a tour bus, an Infinity Q80, a Dodge Ram truck, and a 2009 corvette. The corvette is never driven. Their house is nice. They are pleasant neighbors but their lack of closeness to their grandson puzzles me. I always wanted my children to grow up as close to me and their mother as possible. I bought land just to teach them field skills and to have a place to call their own as a reserve. I am generally disturbed by parenting these days. Boomers started these pathologies but successive generations I observe continue in those pathologies. Most young women today can't imagine not working a career now and insist it is a God given right. Most men are too immature to be good fathers. I live in direct opposition to these forces. I fear it will be in vain as they are seduced by the media, etc. I try hard to screen such things. We homeschool and the kids are very attached to us both. I don't see many young people today with my commitment to my kids, even adjusting for financial differences. Sending them to school is poison but most do it and don't really question the cult Marxist agenda. I live in the Bible Belt and am 59. My wife is 42. I lived in Germany for 28 years and the lack of commitment to family there is just as bad. Most of Europe lives in permanent adolescence and it is impossible to home school there. Some boomers deserve the wrath but most don't. I knew a lot of good men I could look up to as a boy. I am that man for my children. I see very few men today I would say that about. Most boomers were victims of the same propaganda we have been exposed to, only less sophisticated. They followed the signs of the times. The boomers most of you complain about were all enthralled with the 60s counter culture. That was a line of division among boomers which many here don't realize. Even at my age, I find young women flirt with me because I have military bearing and am not ashamed to be a man. Things have been stolen from us all and all have been bamboozled by the Cabal. God insists we forgive those who have wronged us. If I can forgive my parents many of you can too.

Blogger Some Guy June 07, 2021 9:11 AM  

Another useful metric is how many of their children grew up in an intact home. That will knock out more than half in one question.

Blogger Bigger Bunyip June 07, 2021 9:15 AM  

Vox, how do you know my in-laws? Your boomer posts are uncanny and genius

Blogger Jason June 07, 2021 9:17 AM  

My parents were 100% on the boomer lifestyle - traveling around the world 2-3x/year and living in a golf retirement community golfing 4+ days a week. Only when they truly got the faith back and my father slowed down are they completely altering the sunset years. In four weeks, they are leaving the retirement community, moving nearby and will be helping with the grandchildren and passing on wisdom. I'm not at all resentful. They got caught up in the sin of Noah, who got caught up and ended up drunk, and in my parents case, got caught up & drunk on the ethos of that generation. My parents have "sobered up" and will be passing on their wisdom, much like their parents & grandparents. Couldn't be happier, both for them and for us.

Blogger VD June 07, 2021 9:26 AM  

Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you. All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me. If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block.

We know, Boomer. You already threw your entire society a cinder block.

Which is why the succeeding generations all hate you and why history will judge you harshly.

Blogger Darwin is a Harsh Mistress June 07, 2021 9:27 AM  

A gentle reminder from what you would call an Xer who once studied this stuff:

If you were born between 1945 and 1964 hooray for you, you made out of your mother's womb unlike too many of my never-born cohortists.

"Boomer" is a popular Master of the Obvious phrase ("Hey that's quite a boom in babies we have here at the hospital. Those GIs didn't waste much time ha ha ha") and it's a Madison Avenue marketing segment.

Duh of course there was a baby boom. All those young men, aged 18-25 ripped from their natural lives For The Duration and, having made it back more or less intact, they do what comes naturally.

But that's not what made a Boomer.

A Boomer is a creature of Madison Avenue, eager to sell marketing products to giant corporations filled with eager to succeed GIs conditioned to follow orders and work hard for the CO.

"Baby Boomer" is a BEHAVIORAL LABEL. If you behaved the same as other Boomers, YOU'RE A BOOMER TOO. It doesn't matter when you were born is matters how you spend money. Or really how you made your WWII "My Kids Are Going to Have Everything I Didn't Get" parents spend their money on you.

Who are the "My Kids Are Going to Have Everything I Didn't Get" parents?

Not the 35 year old accountant drafted to the Supply Division. Not the 25 year old Petty Officer First Class recalled to Active Duty.

No, those were the kids ripped from high school into the 3ID to invade Sicily or a MEF in the Island Hopping campaign.

Those boys did become men under unique conditions. It malformed them from the norm. They did not have the benefit of their own paternal guidance at a crucial age etc.

So they really screwed up their own kids. Throw in universal television, radio, and consumerism + American monopoly on manufactured goods and what could possibly go wrong?

Oh Madison Avenue, that's what.

All those wartime propagandists and the shrinks that fueled them didn't cease to exist - they moved to Manhattan and turned their dark arts on the homefront.

Anyway, if you were born between 1945 and 1964 and you don't self-identify as a Boomer, and you're aghast at their collective mentality of confirmity and rebellion (Soviet/Orwellian meaning intended) then you are almost certainly NOT A BOOMER because YOU DON'T ACT LIKE A BOOMER AND YOU ARE OF NO VALUE TO A MARKETING/PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN AIMED AT THE BOOMERS.

What are you? How about a normal American like most of us?

May I recommend we dump the use of made up, propaganda inspired generation labels unless there is a good reason to use them, as in shorthand for the absolutely clueless conforming, mass-produced consumerist narcissism that is Boomerism?

Literally, BOOMER IS WHAT A BOOMER DOES and mainly BOOMER DOESN'T THINK, BOOMER CONFORMS.

Blogger SJ June 07, 2021 9:28 AM  

I'm a millennial. My wife's parents have never ever seen our five children. They don't even know their names. Too busy being forever young. Last time my wife spoke with her father he sent her a picture of him looking incredibly old goofing off and posing in front of a new Ford mustang he just bought that was captioned never grow up. It was like the meme came to life.

As for the rest it's just too depressing to write out. Our kids already understand the term boomer though as we are determined to teach them about that g-g-g-generation.

How did they end up so insane? They are more solipsistic then teenage girls. They hope their own children fail. Was it just the TV that messed them up this badly?

Blogger Daniel June 07, 2021 9:32 AM  

Only narcissists would mistake the generation they didnt raise well [mil] for the one they didnt birth [x].

These are the same people who call a g mod a "vaccine."

Blogger kurt9 June 07, 2021 9:32 AM  

The biggest issue I have with the boomers is that they were the generation that, in mass, bought into the whole lefty counter-culture thing. Yes, I know this was created by Silents. But the boomers could have largely rejected it. But they did not. They cannot blame the Vietnam War for it either. There were previous waves of anti-war sentiment (America First prior to Pearl Harbor being the most well-known) that were neither leftist or anti-American in nature. But the boomers chose to push the leftist and anti-American aspects of anti-war instead.

Blogger DeepThought June 07, 2021 9:34 AM  

I see this in my neighborhood and our children's friends. The good grandparents come to the games, birthday parties etc...The poor grandparents want nothing to do with their children and many live out of state. We made a decision to prioritize our family connections and live close to our parents versus focus on my career.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 07, 2021 9:36 AM  

"I don't even live in the same state as my grandkids"

I wonder how that could have happened. /s

"On the positive side: Boomers knew what bathroom to use."

Would that be the mud at Woodstock, or the one they cut the glory hole in? "On the plus side, while the boomers were digging four times as fast, at least they weren't as deep yet." No shit, sherlock.

"Grow up, get a degree that makes money"

Did grow up, your turn, you're only three times as old.

As for degrees, you're a special kind of retarded considering most of them now are strictly losing propositions in the money department, and that includes things like going into medicine on average.

"If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block."

No you wouldn't. You'd strap my feet to ten of them like you already did.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 9:37 AM  

I can only speak with authority for the rust belt state of Michigan. But I have a certain level of boomer feelings here.

The boomers could work a part time job, pay for college, and still have concert, car, and party money. They then made college free for anyone with any skin tint other than white, forced the colleges to hire 200% more employees, most of them liberal functionaries who do nothing, and forced their children and grand children to take out huge nondischargable loans to go to college to get the certificate that says they can apply for an office job.

They walked into jobs that paid a living wage and allowed them to purchase a home and cars and vacations on 30 hours of work and 10 hours screwing off at the office per week. The job came with a great benefit plan, great pension, and great raises. As soon as they got control at work they kept all their deal and made it much worse for the next generations to increase their investment return. All manufacturing went to Mexico and China. All IT to India. Importing illegals to drive down wages. Pressuring employees to work 60 hours for 30 worth of pay. Meanwhile their 401k and other investments soared.

More so in this area, the boomers explicitly pulled the ladder up after them. Tier two wages and benefits for new UAW employees. No more pensions for new government and school workers, while increasing their packages.

They kept the nice house in the safe suburb, and bought a cabin home on a lake up north, and then a condo in Scottsdale. Four cruises a year.

All the while lecturing their children how bad they are for moving to Atlanta or Denver or the tech area of California to get any sort of professional job, and forcing their grandkids to live in a small condo. Never offering to help, of course, and sitting on the huge land plots in the nice area.

Then when 07 hit and they may have had to cut down to one cruise a year and sell the condo, they learned about reverse mortgages.

And being so smug about how nice it is to have a black president, and how evil orange man is. Why can't we hold hands and toke up like at woodstock?

"You should have just worked a little harder in college. I worked almost 12 hours a week."

"You should take your lunch three days a week, that is how I bought my first new car."

"Just walk in with your resume and shake the bosses hand. That was how I got in at the accounting firm."

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 07, 2021 9:38 AM  

"Gender studies is not a degree but an activity that takes place in the back seat of a car."

No, that's already the degeneracy that you boomies were committing.

"I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends."

Try and tell me your own are better. Try.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 9:39 AM  

The people blaming boomers are projecting their own defects just like the woketards do

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos June 07, 2021 9:41 AM  

Bingo.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 9:42 AM  

Your hate shows poorly for maturity and suggests projection to protect from realization of your own problems

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 07, 2021 9:44 AM  

Considering what influence grandparents can have on kids, it might be a good thing that boomers don't spend much time with them.

The kids will at least be spared the Bootstrap Speech.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 07, 2021 9:47 AM  

I didn't start out hating you, boomers, I was only vaguely aware of a general sliminess and shallowness. However, your responses to posts like these brought me around real fast.

If the shoe doesn't fit, don't paint a bullseye on yourself, you vain exemplars of narcissism and idiocy. Your standing up to squeal, curse, and sneer, tells us that yes, you resemble said remarks so much that you can't even pretend to yourself that you don't.

Blogger Seeingsights June 07, 2021 9:51 AM  

‘ I’m not sure I understand. As a 69-year old boomer, I don’t know any boomer of my acquaintance who wouldn’t, and hasn’t, tried to help his children and grandchildren in any way he can, whether with time or money, or any other way.’

I think Vox Day was too easy on that Boomer.

How about the abortion and divorce rates of Boomers, compared to previous and subsequent generations? Abortion and divorce are evils for kids.

Blogger Glen Sprigg June 07, 2021 9:51 AM  

Jim M wrote:Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you. All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me. If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block. Gender studies is not a degree but an activity that takes place in the back seat of a car. I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends. Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society.
The myopic stupidity of this comment, not to mention utter narcissism, demonstrates exactly why no one is going to miss your generation.

There are no degrees that make money anymore; your generation ensured that succeeding generations would have no economic opportunities while you were still alive. You sent all the good-paying jobs overseas, and the ones you kept for yourselves were locked off from any hope of Gen-X or later joining in. You act as if we should be grateful that you left us fast-food restaurants to work at. And it was your generation that gave us 'gender studies' degrees while cutting out the courses that would actually benefit us, like classics, history, and life skills. You made damn sure that we wouldn't know about how badly you had screwed up the world your parents left you, and now you're pissed off that we're finding out anyway, and we've learned to despise you for it.

We didn't ask you to give us anything except a chance to achieve what you did. And you laughed in our faces and told us to suck it up, right before you went on your third cruise of the year. Now that you're finally reaching the twilight of your misbegotten lives, you're finding out just how reviled your generation will be, and you've got the nerve to blame us for not worshiping the ground you walk on.

The day the last Boomer dies, we will celebrate like it was V-E Day, and no one will have to listen to another Bob Dylan 'song' ever again. My generation won't be able to do much to fix the mess you left, but our kids will. And they'll be equipped to do so, because unlike you, we don't treat them like landfill. And we'll finally stop the wholesale slaughter of children that you embraced in the name of 'sexual freedom.'

In the final count, there will be more lawyers in heaven than there are Boomers. Hell, there will be more Confederate slaveowners in heaven than Boomers. And we won't mourn your generation for as much as a minute.

Blogger Rottweiler June 07, 2021 9:54 AM  

Der erwige boomer is a generation of cocaine snorting locusts. It's a generation of malice of forethought. They have known what they were doing this entire time. It is the spiritual embodiment of Cronos/Saturn the consumer of their own children. The boomer believes emasculating their own male children via pharmaceutical agents such as Adderall. The boomer plague is one of masculine insecurity, insecurity to the degree of being threatened by their own sons. Hence the spirit of the boomer aborted 1/3 of generation X, and doped up the Millennials to point of an opioid addiction pandemic.

The boomer subhuman views all younger people as sexual competition, and after pharmaceutically castrating their sons, boomer scum, will saunter into Hooters to drunkenly flirt with 19 year old waitresses. Boomer man children do this disgraceful, disgusting, shameful act in front of their sexually hopeless grandchildren.

The American Dream died in 2001, but to the boomer this is a good thing as the race traitor boomers get to die on top of the trash pile. Promethean lapdogs, and they are so proud of their selling out of their grandparents, children, and grandchildren. Selling them into perpetual Promethean debt slavery.

Boomers are John Wayne in their own imagination, they view themselves as Rooster Cogburn, their life is the definition of "true grit". In their drunken delusional world of The Villages FL, they earned it all, all of the Wealth of Western Civilization.

The Millennials can't hope to hate the boomer locusts as much as our ancestors in Heaven, who have watched one generation squander 2000 years of sacrifice, strife, and triumph.

-TLDR- Boomers couldn't live up to their fathers, so they made sure their sons couldn't live up to them.

Blogger Laughingdog June 07, 2021 9:55 AM  

Oh, I win this one. My family? Stepmothers score. Three generations of men have arranged their finances to leave nothing to their children and everything to the spouse left holding the bag when they die. The spouses "love" them, after all.

My father was a year too old to classify as a boomer. But he definitely fell for this one when he died. Everything was left to my step-mother, who proceeded to ignore me and use it all for her own kids once he was gone.

"Fairy Tales" are based on truth. There's a reason they lasted so long. As much as most single-moms insist "Any man I marry must love my children as much as his own", I have yet to see any of them live up to that themselves.

Blogger Dice June 07, 2021 9:55 AM  

My grandparents and their siblings were Silents, save the youngest. One of them had an RV, they sold the house and shuttled between kids to see and spend time with grandkids(family was spread out due to military). My grandparents traveled...on a bus with their church, to see things their rural church wanted to see. When I was growing up, I saw not just my grandparents all the time, but my uncles and aunts a couple times a week each. My grandparents’ home was clearly the hub of the family. Bought a nice sedan every ten years, a solid truck every fifteen. They knew how to raise kids and have a life and still leave a lot when they passed on.

Blogger Azimus June 07, 2021 9:57 AM  

I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends. Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society.

This is how you justify robbing the young through entitlement programs, is it? They're just compost to you, so why not?

That's a pretty risky attitude for someone about to spend 40yrs living it up in your wrinkly-body brothel, contributing nothing to the wealth of the nation and popping a smorgasboard of pills that keep you alive that the compost is paying for. They might just decide to stop paying for some of those pills... oh no's, what then? I guess that will be time for your generation to go to the moon again.

Blogger DJ | AMDG June 07, 2021 9:57 AM  

My wife’s parents would see our kids about twice a month, maybe, when we lived in the same metro-area. We tried to connect more often but they were busy or...whatever. We moved out of state eventually for a better home/dollar and less taxes. They were p**sed we were moving but “understood” our reasons. Four year later they followed us out here and complain ALL THE TIME. Our kids still only see them about twice a month. I just shrug. They’re so bitter about life and complain about “society” even though they have everything they could want.

Blogger RadixMalorum June 07, 2021 9:58 AM  

Jim M wrote:Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you. All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me. If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block. Gender studies is not a degree but an activity that takes place in the back seat of a car. I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends. Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society.

The day of the pillow is coming boomer.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 07, 2021 9:59 AM  

Nate wrote:Boomers raised the Millennials… and it shows…
What, exactly, do you mean here?
You do realize that the oldest Millennials are 40, yes? (So NOT the tide-pod eating, "what bathroom!?" bullshit.)

Jim M wrote:Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you.
I did: Computer Science…
And your faggot-ass generation pushed all the positions overseas, or brought in H1Bs to displace us.
Oh, and you came up with the term "IT" so that you could lump EVERYTHING in there: is it networking? IT. Is it programming? IT. Is it data-entry? IT. Is it running cables? IT. — Is it a whole goddamn R&D department listed in the 'Required' portion of a job-description? "Entry-level IT."

All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me. If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block.
Yes, we know.
You've done it to us multiple times.
Remember 2008? Remember 2020?

Gender studies is not a degree but an activity that takes place in the back seat of a car. I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends.
Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society.

Yes, because YOU and YOUR GENERATION loathed and despised teaching and mentorship so much that those of us coming after you were utterly ignorant.

Blogger Albert June 07, 2021 10:02 AM  

My parents are boomers, I'm end of Gen-X or start of Millennial, depending. This post makes me grateful they're outliers:

1 & 2) They go to a lot of effort to see their grandchildren, multiple times a week when they can. This is a lot more than I got to see my grandparents, before they died.
3) Not much, due to fraud on the part of siblings.
4) They're going to leave us quite a bit more than they were left, unless a massive collapse happens first.

Blogger Freeholer June 07, 2021 10:03 AM  

As a Gen X who was raised by boomers......It isn't just the money. It isn't just the time. It is the entire package that the boomers were given every advantage and aren't even able to give back equally in a single aspect of life.

I could give the details but Boomers would just say it was anecdotal and doesn't apply.

Rough details, even with my grandparents living out of state when I was growing up also. My grandparents saw me 2-3 times more than my kids see their grandparents. Expected inheritance in actual dollars (won't even go into time value of money, or real value) is probably going to be about 30 percent. One parent died due to arrogance because they knew more than doctors. Other is busy traveling with new spouse.

It isn't the money, the "loan" I was given to deal with personal family issues, I am being told not to pay it (so it is going to interest bearing debt) but it won't be dismissed because that would lose the emotional lever on me. In lecturing me about saving for retirement, suggesting I point a couple of percent of income to start, and not contemplating that I am putting away more than 20 percent.

Both parents had every single advantage of white middle class American and have not been able to grow anything or to actually make the world a better place. Their finances are smaller. The family is smaller. The family has less knowledge. Not a single thing has grown except their arrogance. The thing that their entire generation claimed was the sole purpose to existing my entire life.

Blogger Black Bird June 07, 2021 10:04 AM  

I love my Grandkids. I loved my parents who passed away several years ago at 96 and 94. We spend a lot of time with our kids and grandkids. We speak and spend time with them every week. We had five and 4 attended church every week.
It’s a selfish world and when you buy into it you become number one.
I believe you enjoy the fruits of your labor after only giving back what you have and have learned.
Loving your children is showing them the difference between good and evil.
Being there when they call and fall. That doesn’t mean bailing them out.
If they won’t listen that doesn’t mean you don’t tell them.
Some of us in this world are hard headed.
Yes the villages in Florida is nothing but fun for me alone.
I’ve been there many times and it’s SAD. They want nothing to do with children. They say it LOUD and clear.
Let’s face it Disney has become very much anti family.
What do you do if your parents where out for themselves.
Well do right and don’t look back. Stop complaining about them and move on. Love them but don’t duplicate them.
Your success will be judged soon enough.

Blogger Joeplanet June 07, 2021 10:05 AM  

“Get a degree that makes money.”

Once again, this self-unaware Boomer has no idea how much his generation shortened such a list.

Blogger Mike Wallens June 07, 2021 10:11 AM  

What I see from Boomer grandparents is almost a weird obsession with grandchildren. Moving across the country to follow their children just so they can be next to grandchildren. From what I have seen it's cloying and excessive. Just a few personal observations.

Blogger Tony Pfefferoni June 07, 2021 10:13 AM  

I didn’t really understand boomer hate until I met some American Boomers abroad. They perfectly embodied the sterotype. Retired and spending their children’s inheritance on a perma vacation, seeing the grandkids once a year, maybe. Very willing to dish out useless folly as advice and surprised why I didn’t share their naive progressive world view. I’m grateful to have babyboomer parents who rejected the pattern of their generation for the most part and embraced God’s ways.

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 07, 2021 10:20 AM  

If only stupid boomers would respond to anti-white bigotry and hatred the way they respond to clowning on boomers.

They identify with boomer way more than what they actually are.

Blogger Harambe June 07, 2021 10:24 AM  

I'm not a typical boomer. I love my grandkids. I even visited them once and let them look at my $500k RV. I was on the way to Vegas to spend their inheritance on hookers and seafood buffets.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia June 07, 2021 10:28 AM  

Ok, I'll play along.

1. On average, how many days per year did you see your grandparents as a child?

Both my grandmothers died before I was born; both died while my grandfathers were living independently. Both my grandfathers lived into their late 80s. My mother's father eventually lived with my aunt, but he would spend a month with us in the summer. My father's father lived with my other aunt in a neighboring state in a house with more room, but he would come stay with us from time to time, and we would visit them. Our house was very small so an extended family situation across all generations at one time was not feasible.

2. How many days per year do you see your grandchildren?

No grandchildren yet. They are building careers.

3. What did you inherit from your father and grandfather?

Witnessing the fact that an old man in his 80s can kick your ass at various card games. Other than that, nothing, from either my grandfathers or father. My siblings and I were actually supporting our father by supplementing his pension.

4. In real terms, do you expect to leave more to each and every child and grandchild than you received, or less.

Well, the amount depends on how much longer I live. The kids have already gotten support from us -- they took on no college debt, we made sure of that.

So if I live into my 80s, -- the genetic profile looks good -- and that's it, there will be some for sure. However, if David Sinclair (not a boomer by the way) figures out how to halt aging, then no promises.

I hope he does if only for the ancillary benefit of irritating the shit out of you younger guys for many many years to come.

Blogger Dark Herald June 07, 2021 10:28 AM  

Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you.

What a crock of shit.

Thanks to Boomer Academic Welfare there are no degrees that make money.

I gave a kid a list of questions to ask any college within the university she was applying to. Standard stuff. One of them was, "what is the average first five years income of a graduate from this college with this degree?"

Very common question when Boomers and Gen-X went to college, every university had it to hand.

You know the what the answer is now that Boomers are running the colleges? "We don't keep track of that."

Gee, I wonder why?

Not that it would matter. When you have an undischargable mortgage sized payment for a student loan, it doesn't matter what job you get after college. You can't get ahead if you are paying for your education for thirty years. But good news, the Boomer professor who taught you has an endowed chair and three houses. He's taken care of and that's all that matters because he worked so hard to get it.

It might have been different if Boomers had paid for their children's education. But why do that when they can get a student loan?

No one will miss you when you are dead.

And no one will ever listen to the Beatles again.

Blogger Dark Herald June 07, 2021 10:31 AM  

The Monkees maybe.

They were more of a Gen-X thing. The only music from the Sixties that will survive the passing of the Boomers and it's Monkees.


Cheer up, sleepy Jean!
Oh, what can it mean that
To a daydream believer
And a homecoming queen?

Blogger SonyAD June 07, 2021 10:32 AM  

Jim M wrote:Typical whining by non-boomers. Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you.

You can't save money these days. Inflation will depreciate your savings faster than you can accrue them. And will probably also depreciate your earnings faster than you can climb the corporate ladder, assuming you weren't born with a silver spoon in your mouth. The only way to save these days is to buy property to rent to wage slaves.

If you try and buy stocks, you'll probably get destroyed by short sellers or your yearly earnings from dividends will be a pittance compared to what it cost to buy the shares.

Things just aren't the same as in your time. The only realistic way you can get ahead these days is to take out a bank loan with which to buy real-estate to then rent to wagies, who will never be able to afford to buy a place to live in with savings from their wage. And to rent it to them for more than it costs you to service the loan.

And then to rinse and repeat. However, each bank loan you take out is new money issuance and therefore inflation. Making the situation that much worse, because wages haven't kept up with inflation since the 70s.

And wagie slaves can't take out home mortgage loans because job security is a thing of the past and they may need to move to the next job, leaving them with a mortgage for a home they can no longer live in. Moreover, the economy was deliberately destroyed in 2020 under the pretence of protecting you old, fat fucks from dying from the coof.

Taking out a bank loan to buy a property to rent to wage slaves is being a parasite in cahoots with bankers, the biggest parasites that there ever were. And you boomers who defend this scam society are the perfect arrogant, ignorant, stubborn useful idiot neofeudalism needed to rise.

Jim M wrote:All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me. If drowning, I'd throw you a cinder block. Gender studies is not a degree but an activity that takes place in the back seat of a car. I laugh every time I meet the family of family of neighbors and friends. Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society.

As if being a parasite on the backs of wage slaves is being a contributing member of society. As if money was the same as actual wealth and meritocracy was a thing.

Blogger tweell June 07, 2021 10:33 AM  

I pass this test, but am well aware that I am the exception that proves the rule. My siblings fell away from God and had multiple failed relationships, now they hoard what they have left and direct their children to me for help.

Pray to Jesus, ask for His grace (although we do not deserve it, me definitely so) and try to live an upright life. When (not if) we fall short, admit the failure and try to do better.

Blogger Emmanuel June 07, 2021 10:37 AM  

The boomer generation ascended after the social riots of the late 60s, up to now. They inherited a First World with unprecedented freedom, unparalleled living standards, gigantic opportunities and extremely healthy western societies.

Look at what they turned those into.

The only redeeming view I would have is that many rot factors such as Vatican II or the Hart Cellar act predate boomer ascend to power, and that boomerism was the revealed result of some poisonous seeds planted slightly before, while many boomers just enthusistically drank the theratogenic Kool-Aid that cripples their posterity.

Blogger Elmer T. Jones June 07, 2021 10:39 AM  

1. All 4 were long dead before I was born. My grandfather was born in 1870, his father a disabled Civil War vet. He died when my old man was flying bombers over Nazi Germany in 1943. Due to his fluency in Spanish that he acquired growing up in Mexico, he served as a CIA field agent in post-war Germany intercepting Nazis attempting to flee to Latin America. He never said two words to me about these experiences, just lived out his career as a professor at a well-known military graduate school. I found out the truth about his exploits from other sources. 2. No grandchildren yet but would lavish attention on them. 3. My dad inherited nothing from his father, who was displaced from his job in the 1930s when the Mexican government nationalized the railroads. From my dad I inherited a lot of regret that I was not a better son and friend, but thanks to his relentless pressuring me stop acting like a retard I managed to improve myself into a useful citizen 4. Despite this I have been struggling my entire life and have only left my sons a lot of affection and friendship. One is an artisan and the other has a good job and pursues a math degree. I am proud of both of them. A couple years ago I took the younger one overseas and we went a-whorin together. It was awesome and an experience I wish I had shared with my own dad, who could have offered countless insights into economics through observation of human market activities.

In conclusion, my boomer advice is for you to : 1. learn to cut your own hair 2. stop eating sugar 3. suspenders 4. install website blocking software (1-4 will put your testosterone through the roof) 5. learn a hands-on skill like machining 6. stop griping about boomers because the years will fly by and you will soon if not already be ad-targeted for prostate supplements.

Blogger Mikesbo June 07, 2021 10:40 AM  

1. On average, how many days per year did you see your grandparents as a child?

Fourteen. Maternal lived in another state. Never met paternal.

2. How many days per year do you see your grandchildren?

No grandchildren yet.

3. What did you inherit from your father and grandfather?

$20k and nothing.

4. In real terms, do you expect to leave more to each and every child and grandchild than you received, or less.

I already have.


The definition of baby boomer has moved over time. Way back when, it was roughly "born before the 60's", i.e. old enough to be a hippy by the late 60's, and has crept up now to 1965. I was 6 when Woodstock was held.

You were born in 1968, the same as my younger sister. She and I lived in the same house, had the same parents, went to the same schools, so how do you figure? And, if the year keeps shifting upward, you might find yourself suddenly a boomer in much the way a new ATF restriction suddenly creates new criminals.

Gen-X is justifiably known as the "Me" generation. Be careful of your glass house.

Blogger Jim M June 07, 2021 10:40 AM  

So VD, what career do you have or are you complaining that your parents didn't give you dumpsters full of cash for your high school graduation. In all your years on this planet, have you created businesses? Lead and managed people? Employed maybe 1400 to 1500 people at any given time? Build or die. I really enjoy your blog however perhaps you bite the hands that fed you. Succeeding generations hate us because we actually have accomplishments, not wearing rainbow stickers while working at starbucks even though you might have a STEM degree beyond the first step. I'll just sit back and read your pontifications and profound promulgations. I detect a very strong level of actual mental illness due to the enraged envy of other generations. Keep smiling while your generation is buried in debt from worthless degrees and returning home to stink up a basement as INCELs of both (or the numerous) sexes. There is the occasional success story but its due to this odd recessive gene called ambition. I came from nothing but foster homes until finally attending a good school, RPI and going the engineering route. Side tracked to ROTC and flew Army helos for almost 32 years culminating in commanding an aviation brigade. Retired and built distribution company and sold it at age 55 four years ago. I can even claim to have turned a few lives around, away from basement dwelling future part time starbucks workers and funding advanced degrees and such. Envy will kill your spirit. Out.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 10:44 AM  

@1 first comes love (courtship) THEN comes marriage, then the baby in a carriage and they couldn't even instill that much. I've seen so many slutty Catholics now it makes me feel blackpill because if even they're engaging in Biblical whoredom (muh sexual revolution ain't new) then who is the standard, exactly? Culture comes first. We've imported diversity and their genetic cultures are polluting ours.

Men also had the duty to provide for their own adult children (patriarchy) INSOFAR as enabling his own children to reproduce successfully, but I've seen/known Boomer leeches taking from their kids then complaining Y NO GRANDKIDS? or expecting a lavish wedding only to be told they won't bother, then, they'll just live in sin. This is the world the Boomers made and we can only drink it in for now. Most of the divorce rate is from the Boomers re-marriage. So a lot of kids are going to be screwed by gold diggers. First marriage has a lower rate. Careerism, in husbands or wives, is also toxic. Be a family man. Mad Men was an awful TV show but peak Boomerism. A guy with a clear case of Histrionic Personality Disorder acts like a spoiled manchild but at least HE's happy and smiling at the end, the wake of destruction be damned.

Blogger buzzardist June 07, 2021 10:46 AM  

Even if a boomer were to leave a decent inheritance, the macro effects of debt that boomer-run society is passing off to subsequent generations more than outweighs wealth inheritance in almost every case.

Grow up,

Your children tried to grow up, but you helicoptered over them. You never fostered kids to take risks and learn consequences. Because of boomers, kids can't even play in parks by themselves anymore without someone calling the police.

get a degree that makes money,

Degrees don't make money. This is a classic boomer lie. Degrees cost money, and boomers pushed their children and grandchildren to get degrees that saddled the best and brightest of two generations with crippling debt. We couldn't take risks when young that could have set us up for success because we were grinding away in menial jobs to pay off the debt that you insisted we take.

save

We've done a hell of a lot better with less than your boomer generation at saving. But, be honest, did you teach your children how to save? Or did you teach them to refinance their home loans to pay off credit card debts? We saw a lot more of the latter.

and take care of you.

And there it is--take care of you--boomer ethos in a nutshell.


The most valuable inheritance is a strong, functioning nation that knows itself and is able to withstand threats. Boomer failure to maintain wealth would have been damning enough, but the greater failure is with people, society, and the nation. To be fair, boomers' parents started some of the problems--the 1965 immigration bill, for instance--that put the nation at risk. But boomers still inherited a stable, productive, coherent nation. After four boomer presidents, plus now Biden, do we still have a coherent, stable nation? Between 1619 and 1776, people can't even agree anymore what year America was founded. People can't agree anymore that men use men's public bathrooms and that women use women's, or that people with penises don't run in girls track events. Thanks, boomer.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 07, 2021 10:48 AM  

Nate wrote:Boomers didn't raise Gen X. Silents raised GenX. Boomers raised the Millennials... and it shows... and GenX is raising Gen Z.
And the Greatests raised the Boomers.

The times had as much to do with it as the parents' generation. The Boomer generation ended in the late '50s, since the last man to be drafted was born in '55 (draft ended 18 years later in '73). Boys born in '60 went all the way through high school without the spectre of draft and Vietnam.
Geoffroi de Bohemonde wrote:The boomers most of you complain about were all enthralled with the 60s counter culture. That was a line of division among boomers which many here don't realize.
That line runs about through 1960, and Vietnam and the draft is a big part of the reason for it. If you were born after '60, you had no part in '60s counter culture. By the time you were old enough to go to college or look for a job, the Boomers had already started climing the ladder, and cut the bottom rungs off behind them.

Blogger Some Guy June 07, 2021 10:54 AM  

"Children that would make better mulch or compost, not a contributing member of society."

And they wonder why we hate them. No wonder the pedophiles thought they could get away with it.

Blogger Dent June 07, 2021 10:55 AM  

"get a degree that makes money and save"

That's all there is to it, guys. Get a degree; you get money. Save; you get a house. And you can get that degree by delivering newspapers, if you got grit.

200-proof Boomer.

Blogger Harry in Georgia June 07, 2021 10:55 AM  

My wife and I live amid a sea of retirement villages in NE Georgia. Our church (average age of members mid 70's) is filled with two kinds of people. Majority are disconnected from family and rely on social directors and church staff to keep them entertained and connected to community while isolated in their cocoons. Little contact with grandchildren or great grandchildren. The rest of us are devout and help educate (read home school) and mentor grandchildren. We have friends but our scripture says you take care of your own first. My grandparents were a profound influence on my life and a three generation household was the norm for me growing up. Holidays and vacations were a time to visit extended family. I am so ashamed of my woodstock generation and am embarrassed when my daughter's friends praise me for helping out and spending time with her boys. I am only doing what's right and wonder what is so important that more of my peers aren't right there with me modeling real Christian charity and faith.

Blogger pyrrhus June 07, 2021 11:01 AM  

It's an interesting subject to reflect upon..I'm an early Boomer whose grandparents were Lost Generation..one grandmother went to work at age 13 out of sheer necessity and was a wonderful person..My parents were WW2 generation, growing up in the Depression, very tight with money and rather subdued, lacking joy of life..I grew up the opposite, to have adventures, kids, and a fun, meaningful life..My wife, much younger and from a wealthy family, expresses typical Boomer sentiments about spending it all, but talks to our granddaughter every day, who lives in a nice house we helped them buy, and orients her life around our kids...It seems to me that everything seems to trace back to how prior generations reacted to the cataclysmic events of the 20th century...

Blogger Uncle John's Band June 07, 2021 11:04 AM  

So according to putrescence "Jim M", a bunch of things that require a prosperous, stable, high trust society magically exist for his profit without social investment.

Gamma meets moron, complete with stereotyped wall o' text.

Boomer parasites like stupid portmanteaus - perhaps "Gimmie" M. works better for you.

Blogger tdcommenter June 07, 2021 11:05 AM  

@12 Isn't forgiveness for the repentant? Comment #15 is a perfect example of forgiveness given for repentance earned through action, behavior & life-style change.

There is the state of not holding a grudge, then there is the state of renewing familial relations, restoring friendship, or re-opening to fellowship. I think that the latter examples are forgiveness. It is the difference between a ceasefire & an alliance.

Blogger JonM June 07, 2021 11:07 AM  

Lotta walls of text in the comments today.
Never a good sign.

Blogger Uncle John's Band June 07, 2021 11:08 AM  

"Gen-X is justifiably known as the "Me" generation. Be careful of your glass house."

No they aren't.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Me_generation

But lying comes right after parasitic idiocy on the list of generational traits. NABAL, but you are.

Blogger Glen Sprigg June 07, 2021 11:14 AM  

Jim M wrote:So VD, what career do you have or are you complaining that your parents didn't give you dumpsters full of cash for your high school graduation. In all your years on this planet, have you created businesses? Lead and managed people? Employed maybe 1400 to 1500 people at any given time? Build or die. I really enjoy your blog however perhaps you bite the hands that fed you.

Holy crap, and I thought your last post was full of blind narcissism. You claim you enjoy this blog, then you ask if Vox has built anything? Vox is worth twenty of you on his worst day. You couldn't even be bothered to read the OP before writing this idiotic post, could you?

The level of utter narcissistic stupidity amongst your generation is why we'll alternate between dancing on your graves and pissing on them.

Blogger Jim M June 07, 2021 11:19 AM  

Wow, I rest my case. I read lots of pain. Yes, degrees DO earn money. Student A is short of funds, he goes to a 2 year community college ran by the state and because all the credits transfer to the upper division arena, he goes to a 4 year state school and does post grad at a private institution. Or he transfers to a private school at the junior- level, losing a few credits but drives on. The degrees that earn money are not always STEM as too many foreign borns will take $15.00/hour for an IT degree, chem, physics and now most engineering degrees but the jobs are still out there. God forbid if you graduate and get into the military and get a free education, trade sweat and pain for a degree. I've seen people go in after high school, get a BS in biology/pre-med, get med school all while in uniform and all the advanced certifications they wanted. It's out there but people have a fear of success. Take care of you - you're too busy protesting crap, donating to climate scams and such, trying to take care of everyone else but yourselves...wahhhhh. Remember, cut with the vein, not across as it seems the despair level is high due to many lives that are completely non-directional.

Blogger Akulkis June 07, 2021 11:21 AM  

>> On the positive side: Boomers knew what bathroom to use.

But as time has revealed, only because they were forced to do so, under threat of arrest for not doing so. Pity they have insisted on teaching and codifying into law that urogenital anatomy is only a social construct.

Blogger J. Samples June 07, 2021 11:21 AM  

Bootstraps-ellydaddle!

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 07, 2021 11:22 AM  

Dark Herald wrote:The Monkees maybe.

They were more of a Gen-X thing. The only music from the Sixties that will survive the passing of the Boomers and it's Monkees.

Cheer up, sleepy Jean!

Oh, what can it mean that

To a daydream believer

And a homecoming queen?


Monkees?
More like "That was then, this is now!" A mid 1980s Monkees reunion hit.

The Monkees TV show was on in re-runs when I was a kid, I'm in the older Gen-X cohort around the same age as VD. I was far more familiar with 'hey hey we're the Monkees" than daydream believer.

The 70s is the decade with the best popular music. Although, there is some early 60s music I think is good.

Blogger LM June 07, 2021 11:25 AM  

The Glorious Boomers do not get nearly enough credit for destroying the 2000 year old Judeo-Christian caste system and its hellscape of constant industrialized warfare and replacing it with a culture of Love and Peace.

Blogger Beardy Bear June 07, 2021 11:26 AM  

Solid point. My parents were Gen X, and I am a millenial, but I relate to zyklon more than my peers. Thank you for helping me connect why.

Blogger J. Samples June 07, 2021 11:30 AM  

My Boomer father died whilst his 4th wife virtue signalled. His last words to his family just before he was intubated the final time? "I need to buy a bigger RV."

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 11:32 AM  

I hope this isn't redundant but I'd like to point out partly why Boomers had little hope of civility, especially in urban areas. Consider their own parents, older Silents and older still. The generations who grew up with Flapper Prohibition binge drinking culture.
@18 Generational narcissism, as it's being called.
The first manchild/womanchild generation, no others had the prosperity.

An observation on the continual re-marriage and 'live young' stuff - Boomers' primary fault was ranking sex partner above marriage partner, the first generation liberated to consider the wife as a primarily sexual role (Satanic). No wonder they failed in commitment, lust burns out. The incentives of the Boomers were 100% dead wrong and based on fiat debt. The biggest factor was the marriage qualification. Women needed to be ladies, and men, to be considered as suitors by the family, had to be gentlemen to enter polite society. The extended family filter is gone so it falls exclusively to men to filter Wife Material. Nowadays, men reward Girlfriend Material, which is degenerate good-time girl. We observe this as the Markle effect. So many cucks married a woman who was unfit for it. A man's only vote in genetic terms is who he marries. With women, it's reproduction. If men reward the 'bad girls' over enough decades of propaganda from Hollywood/Porn then women like lemmings will normalize to that baseline of expectation. Men complaining about the rules of the cultural game lack understanding of their power within it. Why do SJWs get angry when men don't watch porn? When men won't marry sluts? The problem is one of values. If a man is a cad, he can't expect to magically turn into a dad. It took years of rearing. It's the ho>housewife problem the West is in. Some moral people need to marry down with former degenerates or remain unmarried as the Bible decrees. The culture is one of death, at the direct expense of life (one's seed crop, one's own kids).
Men need the moral authority over this situation to set a new/old standard and notice how the Boomers do use it, re-marrying when it seems insane. The manosphere needs to pick up this point.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 07, 2021 11:32 AM  

Dark Herald wrote:The Monkees maybe.
The Monkees were done when the oldest GenX were 4. The Monkees were a late Boomer phenomenon.

Blogger Harambe June 07, 2021 11:37 AM  

Living in a tourist hotspot frequented by Americans, I can attest that the "rude American tourist" stereotype rests 100% on the leathery, sunburnt shoulders of the boomers. Gen X and Millennials are great to deal with.

Blogger RJ June 07, 2021 11:41 AM  

In all your years on this planet, have you created businesses? Lead and managed people?

Boomers are so ignorant and emotional, they can't be bothered to a modicum of research before posting like this.

A simple search of the blog would answer those questions, Boomer. But then again, you wouldn't like those answers.

Blogger MonsoonBear June 07, 2021 11:41 AM  

Jim M wrote:So VD, what career do you have or are you complaining that your parents didn't give you dumpsters full of cash for your high school graduation. In all your years on this planet, have you created businesses? Lead and managed people? Employed maybe 1400 to 1500 people at any given time? Build or die. I really enjoy your blog however perhaps you bite the hands that fed you. Succeeding generations hate us because we actually have accomplishments, not wearing rainbow stickers while working at starbucks even though you might have a STEM degree beyond the first step. I'll just sit back and read your pontifications and profound promulgations. I detect a very strong level of actual mental illness due to the enraged envy of other generations. Keep smiling while your generation is buried in debt from worthless degrees and returning home to stink up a basement as INCELs of both (or the numerous) sexes. There is the occasional success story but its due to this odd recessive gene called ambition. I came from nothing but foster homes until finally attending a good school, RPI and going the engineering route. Side tracked to ROTC and flew Army helos for almost 32 years culminating in commanding an aviation brigade. Retired and built distribution company and sold it at age 55 four years ago. I can even claim to have turned a few lives around, away from basement dwelling future part time starbucks workers and funding advanced degrees and such. Envy will kill your spirit. Out.
How retarded are you? Do you even read this blog? You'd be a funny caricature if you weren't such an acidic parasite.

Blogger RJ June 07, 2021 11:42 AM  

Retired and built distribution company and sold it at age 55 four years ago.

Not an actual Boomer, yet still a Boomer in spirit. Unbelievable.

Blogger Akulkis June 07, 2021 11:42 AM  

>> Grow up, get a degree that makes money, save and take care of you. All I ever hear is what can I get, what can you give me

I have a Computer Engineering degree from one of the top 10 Universities in the nation for such an education. The school of electrical engineering alone graduates more electrical students than the total number of engineers graduated by most any other engineering university the same time.

In 1987, while still a student, as an independent study project, I designed for a prof, a computer chip for a prof to prove that pattern identification is feasible to put inside a a single chip in spy satellites using digital cameras. I have no doubt that my design was used as the basis for some capabilities in the KH-11 series of spy satellites.


I can design digital logic and even analog circuit chips, down to the transistor doping levels and dimensions if need be. I have written an operating system.

I'm working at a big box home improvement store in the gardening department, because I and 4,000,000 other American IT workers were chased out of the field and replaced with Hindu charlatans.

And then you wonder why your credit card info has been stolen.


You sold out the country, and now you complain that you aren't being praised for your treacherous treason.
Fuck

Blogger Akulkis June 07, 2021 11:45 AM  

@Geoffroi de Bohemonde

Dude. Paragraphs.

You ought to try them some time. It makes things so much easier and more coherent for the reader.

Blogger Nate June 07, 2021 11:45 AM  

"Gen-X is justifiably known as the "Me" generation. Be careful of your glass house."

You moron. No one has called GenX the Me generation in 30 years.

GenX has always been defined by apathy... not selfishness.

Stupid boomer.

Blogger Henry Lee June 07, 2021 11:46 AM  

1. 50 or more. Lived in the same town.
2. 25. They spend half the year with their mother in Florida
3. Nothing
4. Lots. Since we've recovered from spending our savings keeping our son and his family from living under a bridge for ten years due to his bad luck and marrying a narcissistic sociopath.

I've really got to ask my Gen X son how he feels about boomers.

Blogger Nate June 07, 2021 11:47 AM  

"What I see from Boomer grandparents is almost a weird obsession with grandchildren."

you're probably mistaking Silents for Boomers.

Blogger Dent June 07, 2021 11:48 AM  

"I detect a very strong level of actual mental illness"

So do I, Narcissus.

Insane abused people spreading the abuse to more and more people is part of the Boomer story. The question is, how did we let the trash get in the saddle? Were most of the good men killed in war and the loot of the post-war world fell on the remaining dregs? Imagine a homeless man given opportunities no one of his class ever had; imagine he falls upward. What would he be like? What would be his relation to family, children, posterity? What would he do with the civilization placed in his trust? I think we know.

Blogger Harambe June 07, 2021 11:49 AM  

Who wants to have a wedding when they'd have to invite boomer relatives? They hoover up all the good food and they make asses of themselves on the dancefloor. No thanks.

Blogger Steve Canyon June 07, 2021 11:56 AM  

Even the "smart" boomers that want to leave some cash to their kids/grandkids have far too many of their fellow boomers doing their damnedest to destroy savings with inflation, dollar devaluation, and other schemes that ultimately destroy stored wealth.

Land and precious metals are about the only things you can leave to your kids that keep value. Why do you think GenXers with the means are focusing on "getting back to the land". Save for a couple island chains in the Pacific, they're not making any more of it. Which is exactly why "Tiny houses" on postage stamp plots are a fad.

Blogger Blue and Gold Bear June 07, 2021 11:57 AM  

Hate isn’t a lack of maturity

Blogger Akulkis June 07, 2021 12:02 PM  

>> The people blaming boomers are ...


OK, Boomer.

Blogger DJ | AMDG June 07, 2021 12:03 PM  

“... going the engineering route. Side tracked to ROTC and flew Army helos for almost 32 years culminating in commanding an aviation brigade. Retired and built distribution company and sold it at age 55 four years ago...”

I’m calling shenanigans on your math Mr. Engineer. Unless you distribution company was an Amway or Shaklee network. Perhaps Herbalife?

Out.

Blogger Imwill June 07, 2021 12:05 PM  

Hate is something God himself does.
Your post shows poorly for your understanding, and suggests fear of the day of the pillow.

Blogger Imwill June 07, 2021 12:08 PM  

Nice try, boomer

Blogger tdcommenter June 07, 2021 12:09 PM  

@59 Because Gen X had to scramble, they participate less in civic societies, many of which were converged or converging.

Also, not paying attention to a narcissist is selfishness in the eyes of the self asorbed.

Blogger MaryP June 07, 2021 12:11 PM  

There are two kinds of boomers. The ones who held the line and the ones who didn't. The ones who didn't were in a minority for a good while but had the media and Hollywood on their side.

Blogger tdcommenter June 07, 2021 12:12 PM  

Bay area Boomer experiences the diversity that she likely voted for her entire life:
https://nypost.com/2021/06/05/amazon-driver-attacks-67-year-old-woman-in-delivery-dispute/

I feel more saddened by the effects of the Boomers than anything else & the fact that this one will likely not learn from her experience.

Blogger Situyong June 07, 2021 12:13 PM  

Ok Boomer

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 07, 2021 12:16 PM  

Nate wrote:You moron. No one has called GenX the Me generation in 30 years.

I thought boomers were the "me" generation and Xers are the "why me?" generation?

To me, the whole "Gen-X" thing just sounded like a cringey (fake and gay) media generated thing and that nobody cared about that label or "identity"
I did not know a single person growing up, especially in the late 80s when this was foisted on us, who took it seriously and who thought of themselves as a special "generation" I never even heard the term Gen-X until the late 80s when I was already entering adulthood.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 07, 2021 12:16 PM  

The "Me generation" is also Boomers. get your dates straight

Blogger Gator McCluskey June 07, 2021 12:17 PM  

@54 "Gen-X is justifiably known as the "Me" generation. " No, dumbass, that's YOUR generation.

Blogger Some Guy June 07, 2021 12:18 PM  

@55

Your diaper is coming and then you will be forgotten.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 12:20 PM  

DJ | AMDG wrote:“... going the engineering route. Side tracked to ROTC and flew Army helos for almost 32 years culminating in commanding an aviation brigade. Retired and built distribution company and sold it at age 55 four years ago...”

I’m calling shenanigans on your math Mr. Engineer. Unless you distribution company was an Amway or Shaklee network. Perhaps Herbalife?

Out.


I don't know the guy and I am not defending him, but there are Army Reserve Aviation Brigades.

Blogger Situyong June 07, 2021 12:20 PM  

Ok Boomer

Blogger Daniel June 07, 2021 12:21 PM  

What is the difference between a baby boomer and an open sewer?

The open sewer is an early sign of civilization.

Blogger Daniel June 07, 2021 12:24 PM  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation

The difference between a retard and a Boomer is that everyone loves the retard.

Blogger Zander Stander June 07, 2021 12:29 PM  

Joe has kinda an obsession with grandchild-aged children, doesn't he?

Blogger Scofflaw June 07, 2021 12:30 PM  

I wish I got in early so I can complain about my boomer Aunts and Uncles and their cousins. For starters, My uncle and his cousins sold the company business the MOMENT they wrestled control from their fathers. This caused decades of lawsuits. Now the third generation (me and my cousins) are all in similar fields working for other companes.

Then take my cabin for example. All my aunts and uncles would rather sell the property off than co-operate and run it together even though its been in the family for decades.

Blogger Tlotsi June 07, 2021 12:35 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Dark Herald wrote:The Monkees maybe.

The Monkees were done when the oldest GenX were 4. The Monkees were a late Boomer phenomenon.


The Monkees were a fake TV band. Might as well say The Partridge Family, or Josie & The Pussycats.



Blogger urthshu June 07, 2021 12:37 PM  

>>The kids will at least be spared the Bootstrap Speech

Hah. Mine would let them play in traffic.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 12:39 PM  

@50 Buy to Let scam. BTL is cancer, a total ponzi.
In places like New York, ((banks)) lie about the property value, have no requirement to sell so just sit with fake valuations as assets on their balance sheets, inflating the whole market. I tried explaining to a BTL-er how much of a scam it was (usury) by asking, why don't the banks just buy it themselves? Nobody would be able to afford the mortgages if they bought the whole stock and shell companies for russian (oligarchs) and CCP-loans from China buy up in Canada, London and NYC too.
Reminder one form of genocide is limiting births, there's a reason our ancestors hated estate agents. Often they were a ((certain)) type selling to relatives in ((banking)). They have no legal obligation to give you the best price and work with ((developers)) in secret. Once property collapses as currency does, multiculturalism must follow because new inflows are needed as tenants. It's a big game of Monopoly. The BTL Boomers are useless eaters and hilariously, plan on increasing rent to the other Marxists if UBI comes in proper, by the same exact amount.

@86 Well, it's a fact both ((World Wars)) culled a lot of the bravest, most intelligent white men, before many had bred, so that leaves the dregs and what would normally be rejects to breed. They made the Boomers. The military failed in their eugenic role in society by returning cannon fodder to sit home safe with the desperate housewife type and adultery was rampant, if they bothered drafting them in the first place under the first bleeding heart cause - their IQ being 'too low'. The military was pozzed by the enemy long ago.

Blogger ruralcounsel June 07, 2021 12:39 PM  

@81 Akulkis - Welcome to the churn.

I also have engineering degrees from top universities (consistently in the top 1 or 2 for my field). Chemical engineering. I've worked in US. national laboratories, for industry. Served in the US Navy. I have four kids in their 20's, and I suppose I'm on the tail of the Boomers.

Every time I received a new engineering degree, I would graduate out into an economic depression or recession. The smokestack industries that would normally have provided good jobs were "reallocating resources." Plant process design was being outsourced to Third World countries, who frankly had lots of well-educated and well-qualified people willing to work for significantly less. It isn't generations you should be focusing on, it's who's managing the country. Every generation has it's own set of assholes doing a crap job at helping the country and a bang-up job lining their own pockets. Yours and mine.

My divorce nearly bankrupted me, and were it not for the financial support of my parents (WW2 generation) I probably would have had to file. BTW, my dad, an engineering manager, was forced into early retirement in his 50's. My retirement savings, wiped out. I've had the past decade to try and rebuild, in the same job markets all you youngsters have had to deal with, but with the added handicap of being over 50.

Frankly, without the inheritance I'll likely get (my parents are in their 90's) I probably wouldn't be able to. If there's nothing left, so be it. Whatever my parents have is theirs to do with what they will.

Whatever I have left will go to my kids. Likely not as much as I get left, but it will be the same percent, and I have a pretty modest lifestyle, and have no intention of lasting into my 90's. I've seen what that is like, and no thanks.

What you are whining about has been going on for the last 2 or 3 generations (if not more). You aren't anything special. Suck it up.

Blogger Joeplanet June 07, 2021 12:41 PM  

Not originally my idea so I apologize to whomever I am ripping off, but it sure would be great if boomers would push back on Globo Homo and those attacking the white race as hard as they do anyone attacking boomers or Boomerism.

Blogger SJ June 07, 2021 12:45 PM  

Traditionally women were married by their families when young. Now women are raised like they were boys, conservatards especially are prone to this, and men must learn game to conquer one of the feral leaderless girls.

The solution is for us to rebuild the patriarchy in our own families. Learn game, take a slut out of the matriarchy and put her in your patriarchy, have many kids and home school, raise feminine daughters to excel teleologically as wives, mothers, and home makers, and raise sons as strong leaders and patriarchs.

Blogger Uncle John's Band June 07, 2021 12:45 PM  

"I read lots of pain..."

We've seen she can't think. Turns out Gimme M. can't read either.

Hence the walls of incoherent text.

Here's a tip, moron. It's called moral revulsion.

Blogger dweb June 07, 2021 12:45 PM  

Mike Lindell may yet save this country, anyone have a Day of the Pillow coupon code?

Blogger pyrrhus June 07, 2021 12:58 PM  

I have to agree that feral women raised by Dr.Spock-bots are the primary factor in the civilizational wreck we are living...As a lawyer, I have seen the results in too many cases...The movie Falling Down, where the wife gets a TRO without notice to bar visitation, is pretty close to reality...

Blogger Doc June 07, 2021 12:59 PM  

My grandmother was the glue that held our family together. She was a saint. When she died, we never got together en mass again. How my mother and father wrecked the rest of the family with whoring and alcohol abuse while simultaneously living in her shadow, I will NEVER understand. I won't accept one penny of anything from her. In fact, I told her not to put my name anywhere on a single document as I will not respond. I have carved out a life of my own and will leave my 2 sons a legacy to build upon. I rebelled against everything they did. But my dad, well he worked hard at the factory for us, was faithful, but a drunk. He chose drinking, but my mom put him through hell. I take care of him on our property as he once provided for us. He still drinks, mainly in isolation, but I don't harbor the same resentment.

Blogger tdcommenter June 07, 2021 1:00 PM  

@99 Thanks for the correction. I'm gen X & I vaguely recall the media trying to tag Gen X as the Wall Street & Me generation. It's a rare day that I don't come away from this blog informed or entertained.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 07, 2021 1:03 PM  

Tars Tarkas wrote:To me, the whole "Gen-X" thing just sounded like a cringey (fake and gay) media generated thing and that nobody cared about that label or "identity"
I did not know a single person growing up, especially in the late 80s when this was foisted on us, who took it seriously and who thought of themselves as a special "generation" I never even heard the term Gen-X until the late 80s when I was already entering adulthood.

Nobody takes the "group-I'm-born-with" that seriously save for the broad-stroke implicit-"most"/-"many" naming/description-utility… save the Boomers. To the Boomer, the observation that there are a lot of Boomers that sold out their own children is a ghastly attack on your elders, and betters!

Blogger OneWingedShark June 07, 2021 1:07 PM  

dweb wrote:Mike Lindell may yet save this country, anyone have a Day of the Pillow coupon code?
BOOMER2022

It goes well with the cigars, don't forget the coupon-code RUDY20.

Blogger Doc June 07, 2021 1:09 PM  

We lost that culture at the close of WW2. With the mass death and destruction, there weren't enough to carry it forward. Once gone, it only remains in individual pockets . Not certain it can return without it all burning down again.

Blogger Kraemer June 07, 2021 1:11 PM  

Top comment hahaha

Blogger Sean Carnegie June 07, 2021 1:14 PM  

Jim M wrote:I really enjoy your blog however perhaps

You lie. If you actually read it, you'd know the answers to all your "questions" already.

Blogger Mathias June 07, 2021 1:16 PM  

@55 Jim M,

Look, he's hit every point on the gamma checklist, in order, right up to the flounce. VD, how do you do it?

Blogger RandyB June 07, 2021 1:17 PM  

There's a subset of Boomers that are obsessed with their grandchildren, and demand to have control of their upbringing. My in-laws belong to that subset.

Blogger Mamabear37 June 07, 2021 1:17 PM  

Yup

Blogger Jim M June 07, 2021 1:21 PM  

I thank you all for the polite discourse. Its always fun to roll in hot with a different viewpoint. It seems that from all the rock throwing, I may have hit a few nerves and hopefully a few will take control of their lives instead of blaming others. VD, good show. Keep up the excellent work. Remember basement dwellers, take a bath once a week or so :) Lastly, how many of you spewing vitriol have a career instead of a just a part time job? BTW, my company provided international aerial photo/communications/signals/tracking surveillance for various police, para military and military customers. Yeah, an Amway operation, right. Lots of fixed wing and rotary wing platforms plus crews and ground staff, De Havilland -7s, King Airs, Hughes 500s, Jetrangers. Shaklee items. Be well!

Blogger RC June 07, 2021 1:21 PM  

@Akulkis - I have no idea if we'd have a fit for you, but I'd be willing to discuss. If interested, contact me at cossins151 at that place known as Yahoo.

Blogger Mamabear37 June 07, 2021 1:30 PM  

TV is my guess. At least, it's the only difference between how me and my siblings were raised. I married, have 4 kids, acerage and farm, my younger brother, married with a kid, my two sisters, one cheated on her husband and divorced only to marry her drug dealer, the other one married a guy straight off a 10 year prison sentence for statutory rape. The only difference in our childhoods? My sisters shared a room that had a cable TV where they took in a steady diet of MTV and devil mouse. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Blogger Mikesbo June 07, 2021 1:31 PM  

Nathan,

"You moron. No one has called GenX the Me generation in 30 years."

Keeping it classy, eh Mr. Mom? So you get to define this now as well? There's a word for that. Has anything changed to redeem your gen, and why would only gen-x be so uniquely redeemable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7lPLwtIHMs


"GenX has always been defined by apathy... not selfishness."

The selfish (and narcissistic) never see themselves as such.


"Stupid boomer."

I see you're using spell check these days. Good on you, asshole.

Say hi to your brother, isn't he a boomer?

Blogger Christina June 07, 2021 1:32 PM  

dweb wrote:Mike Lindell may yet save this country, anyone have a Day of the Pillow coupon code?

Yesterday I was thinking it'd be really cool for history if the pillow guy saves the Republic. I've been supporting his company.

Here is my pro-tip for dealing with MyPillow: the towels are great.

I have bought a number of towels. They're not too thick, not too thin. The ad copy is right -- they don't feel 'soapy.' You may have to wait three weeks for the your towels to arrive, but they're worth the wait.

I know that was off-topic. But go MyPillow guy!

For the record, Gen X here and no, we're not the "me" generation. When I saw the movie Slacker in my early 20s, I thought the movie rightly captured the generation I was in... Not apathetic. But more like prone to distraction, latchkey kids who go off on tangents. Another movie that captured my Gen X experience perfectly was Sixteen Candles about the girl whose parents 'fucking forget her birthday.' I was sixteen when I saw that, and my parents also forget my birthday that year.

Blogger xxxx0xxxx June 07, 2021 1:35 PM  

Boomers despised all the old F--ts during their time in the sun, ("Never trust anyone over 30"), for good reason.

Now they are despised for the same reason.

Blogger Fletch June 07, 2021 1:35 PM  

Proud to announce that with Jim M's latest post I got blackout on my Boomer Bingo Card! What do I win? ... Deflation?! What's that?!

Framing VP readers as rainbow-pin wearing starbucks baristas or street-protesters just shows how delusional you are.

Offering >20 year old advice to those currently struggling seems to fit with the "boomers trapped in a time loop" idea.

"Just give boss a firm handshake, and look him in the eye when you hit send on the email of your resume going to the HR drone of the contract firm outsourced to place you with Megacorp who promises to hire you for 35 hours/week at starting rate for 3 months only with the option to renew or terminate your contract!"

To echo what was said earlier; boomer is as boomer does. I called my wife's mom a boomer to explain her actions, and she corrected me that her mom was too young to be one, "If the boomer shoe fits." was all I said.

Officially, I don't think my dad is a boomer, but the shoe sure fits. IIRC bad parenting in mice supposedly creates abnormal relationships 3-4 generations out. It's likely the boomer mind-virus will outlive them.

Blogger Mikesbo June 07, 2021 1:37 PM  

@99, @100, you all "changed" it in a fit of "I know you are, but what am I"...nice

Blogger Nate73 June 07, 2021 1:40 PM  

> Even if a boomer were to leave a decent inheritance, the macro effects of debt that boomer-run society is passing off to subsequent generations more than outweighs wealth inheritance in almost every case.

If we're looking at only the macro effects wouldn't that render individual Boomer intentions irrelevant then? What percent of the Boomers were "the good ones"?

Blogger Doc June 07, 2021 1:41 PM  

Gen X. Retired filthy rich at 50. Made my fortune selling bootstraps. Boomers fucking love 'em. Buy a pair of the latest style on a monthly autodraft subscription service. Perpetually lifting themselves above those beneath them.

We are now offering "bootstrap" suspension cords for hospice beds. Can't keep up with demand.

Blogger Mamabear37 June 07, 2021 1:41 PM  

My gen-x dad (who never visited until his 3rd wife started making him) doesn't get why his millennial children never visit his boomer parents. "They think you don't love them; they have rooms full of Christmas presents for your kids that they're just waiting for you to go pick up hoping you'll visit. Mom could do a cross country vacation: 5 states in a week on $700 cash"

Where do I start?
1) we've been paying off debt and remodeling our fixer upper farm house debt free for the last 5 years... Because we got what we could in the garbage housing market. No time or money to travel.
2) way easier for his gen-x or boomer to pick up and travel (as they do anywhere but to see their grandkids) than for a family of 6 to.
3) of course she did! That's why we hate boomers! Because thanks to them, we now pay $55 for a tank of gas and inflation makes a simple trip across state lines to visit family cost $1600. Friggin' boomers... Idk my gen x parents are disgustingly worse. Shall I go over the multiple divorces or abortions?

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde June 07, 2021 1:42 PM  

Akulkis, writing on a phone is not my forte. If that's your only critique I feel vindicated. BTW silently is meant to be Silents. That is my phone's spell checker.

Blogger Scott June 07, 2021 1:42 PM  

(((who))) designed the boomers?

Blogger DasAxiom June 07, 2021 1:42 PM  

Boomers who are sitting atop their high castles, like to watch the rest of us struggle and suffer while pretending that the never ending hardships they are forcing upon us is some how beneficial to our "character" (never theirs, because they are already "perfect").

They happily push for mass migration/worker visas while mocking their own offspring for not being able to have high paying jobs or jobs at all, not accepting that their migration activism hurts rather than helps.

Its as though the arrested development they pushed on everyone else has nothing to do with them. You can't even buy a dilapidated shack (from the boomer who owns it) in some cities now without taking out a jumbo loan.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 1:46 PM  

@113 sorry to chip in so much but I've spoken to SJWs in unguarded moments and know how they think. Women in general will NOT breed with a man they don't respect. Forcing women to marry, or marry young, won't fix the problem. If they marry before 24, divorce rate is also higher, due to the fact their brain and personality isn't set yet. Men would also look for signs of mental illness, most of which present in the twenties. SJWs have been forcing 'boyfriends' (not even husbands) to get the Snip - why? They KNOW they're low quality males (not men, it isn't a guarantee having a Y chromosome) and since women control reproduction, they're refusing to genetically validate those left wingers (and some right-leaning cucks). It's genetic homicide. The women are laughing. As one put it, the male thinks he's celebrating a life without kids. She is celebrating a life without HIS kids. A huge distinction. Women are not sugar and spice and all things nice, women are ruthless.
This also explains the Boomer use of abortion, including the male fondness for it being legal in surveys over female (men who don't want responsibility, Peter Pan syndrome). We'd have to prevent all STD treatment and abortions to unmarried people. A related con by some low quality females (not women, imho) is pretending they're traditional with what's also called fake femininity and then delaying childbearing for a long, long time after marriage. Boomers normalised marriage as respectable without doing any of the related things, like producing good fruit.
"Learn game" is degenerate. It's r-types trying to marry up with advanced paternal age and it fails. If they did, the K-woman would leave eventually because no con can continue forever. PUA has a high failure rate like any MLM unless they race mix, pulling the paler baby card to green card gold diggers. Reddit is full of stories of military men used for their seed to whiten up the line of foreigners where they were stationed, from rice cookers to mudsharks. R-types need to learn to be among r-types successfully for the children's sake. They can't change their entire psychology as adults (made by bad breeding) nor trick women into some parody of bravado confidence, it's a cope instead of genuine self-improvement. Tricking a woman into marriage will backfire hugely. Child IQ is closest to maternal, stop marrying/breeding with stupid women. Late stage Rome did that. Early Rome had family approval, patrician, the man wasn't choosing his own 'love' (lust) matches, which invariably included mystery meat from the slave caste the Bible warned of (foreign women, seductive women). Slut parents make slut children. Sorry, genetics and HBD win. No magic wedding ring. No ho>housewife, no cad>dad. AC wrote a whole book about this and I recommend it.

Blogger Fatty June 07, 2021 1:49 PM  

Where I grew up in British Columbia the boomers don't see their grandkids because their kids all moved to Alberta.
It wasn't the boomers that moved away

Blogger 7916 June 07, 2021 1:51 PM  

@111 Never commented here before, Topper?

Blogger Paulito June 07, 2021 1:53 PM  

@Jim M " you're too busy protesting crap, donating to climate scams and such"

You claim to like this blog, then write a sentence like that which proves that you have either not read it or didn't understand what you read.

Blogger wahr01 June 07, 2021 2:14 PM  

@127

Jim M incredibly admits not only to a life of parasitism off our tax dollars (via the always corrupt contract selection process where he no doubt "knows people"), but doing so in the service of vast abrogation of our privacy rights!

I actually have more respect for the SJW rioting in NYC than people like him.

They actually put their own skin in the game as they rip down the fabric of society rather than greasing palms in some secluded back room of a state senator or city police office.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 2:20 PM  

One way to judge a culture is by its art, as AC has noted and personally, I'd love a whole book on it, Vox. In the olden days, nude paintings were for the bedroom, usually behind a curtain so guests couldn't see. Nowadays, I've been to supposedly traditional homes, and they have awful, 'degenerate art', as the Germans called it. I mean, a nude woman with her breasts out in the living room, around children and nobody cares. It's like a goldfish noticing water. Think Yoko and that Beatle posing nude. America should've rioted against the first strip clubs that made this acceptable, it's Babylonian. They also have a lot of postmodern CIA op 'art'. It's a good tell of the soul.

Blogger Some Guy June 07, 2021 2:21 PM  

"Its always fun to roll in hot with a different viewpoint."

Hot mess more like.

Blogger Gator McCluskey June 07, 2021 2:26 PM  

@130 I remember hearing that phrase applied to your worthless generation when I was a kid, back in the 70s when I was still in grade school. So no, I didn't change anything, you old fool.

Blogger Jack Amok June 07, 2021 2:30 PM  

So according to putrescence "Jim M", a bunch of things that require a prosperous, stable, high trust society magically exist for his profit without social investment.

You know how the most pernicious lies use a kernel of truth to gain traction? Well right there is the kernel of truth in Obama's "You didn't build that" lie. Tail-end Boomer Obama, like the rest of his generation, grew up in a society with lots of support for building things. What little they built was teed up for them by the previous generations. But as their own generation, they couldn't build much. Instead they lived off the seed corn, "building" financial shells that shipped jobs and prosperity overseas. Oh, the Silents started it, sure, but the Boomers went after it like locusts.

Living in a tourist hotspot frequented by Americans, I can attest that the "rude American tourist" stereotype rests 100% on the leathery, sunburnt shoulders of the boomers. Gen X and Millennials are great to deal with.

And that is probably the final insult Boomers will leave us - trashing any respect for the elderly with their obnoxious behavior. When a 65 year old GenXer get's shoved out of the way by a thirtysomething woman in a 2031 supermarket, he'll have Boomers to thank for it.

Blogger Boaty Bear June 07, 2021 2:33 PM  

How did they end up so insane? You ask.

Excess resources lead to 'r selection" - Low ingroup loyalty, being one of the r selected traits.

The perceived excess resources being the fake fiat money.

Talking of r selected traits,

Competition averse - Boomers
Promiscuity - Boomers
Low investment parenting - Boomers
Early sexualisation - ?

We've just watched the rise of r selection, which will collapse into K.

S'gonna be a ride!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 07, 2021 2:35 PM  

@Fatty said
"It wasn't the boomers that moved away"
sell their birthright, flood their home with nepotistic foreigners, drive the price of housing completely out of sight, destroy the economy so there is no work, and then blame them when they move to where there are other White people, houses they can afford, and jobs for non-Chinese.
Boomer move

Blogger SJ June 07, 2021 2:38 PM  

God gave us free will, game works, women are like water and will take the shape of the container a man puts her in, and she will obey. That is her nature.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 07, 2021 2:56 PM  

The Monkees were no more than any other pop band, from Lady Gaga to AC/DC to Glenn Miller. Once millions of dollars are on the line, everything in entertainment is fake.
The guys played their own instruments, and many if not most of the songs were written by Michael Nesmith or Mickey Dolenz. What was sad is that they were made to play the wrong instruments. Nesmith was a keyboardist, Tork and Dolenz guitarists, and Jones was a pretty fair drummer and an excellent singer.
Hatred of The Monkees is a pretty good Boomer tell.

Blogger Jack Amok June 07, 2021 2:57 PM  

"What I see from Boomer grandparents is almost a weird obsession with grandchildren."

you're probably mistaking Silents for Boomers.


I know a late-50's Boomer who fits that stereotype, though not sure how common it is. In many ways, he's an anti-Boomer, yet still in the end always lands back on "Boomer." He actually was very involved in his kid's lives, and contra-Boomer, made considerable efforts to help them, but true to his Boomerishness, he couldn't not make it about himself.

His kids are pretty well accomplished at each of their ages. And they love their dad, but also have a fair amount of resentment because every accomplishment they've had he claims as his own, even while being proud of them. It rankles them. So they've all moved away from their parents to start lives away from his shadow, and now he's talking about retiring and buying an RV to drive around seeing them and his grandkids.

Blogger American Kiwi Bear June 07, 2021 3:05 PM  

Well, most of the boomers of fit the label eagerly took the vax so that may accelerate their dwindling numbers even more than their lifestyles. Unfortunately, it seems many (most?) of all generations swallowed the vax kool-aid, just like boomers their brain washing without the slightest ability at this late stage in their lives to reflect on what the bait they took, hook line and sinker.

Blogger Mikesbo June 07, 2021 3:12 PM  

"I remember hearing that phrase applied to your worthless generation when I was a kid, back in the 70s when I was still in grade school. So no, I didn't change anything, you old fool."

@148, I was a kid in school in the 70's as well, so does that make you only a fool, or old as well? Look at the Montgomery Gentry song, from 2003.

Here's a bigger point. When "the day of the pillow" comes and you assholes kill off your parents, grandparents, whatever, do you think the world will simply reset to happy unicorns, rainbows, and equal wealth distribution due to your impeccable altruistic leadership, or do you think that after the Gateses, Soroses, Bezoses, Buffets, are all gone, it will be gen-x assholes who hold 90% of the wealth in 1% of the population?

What will be your story then?

Blogger Daniel June 07, 2021 3:17 PM  

Hatred of The Monkees is a pretty good Boomer tell.

Agreed. They are a lampoon of the fake Boomer music, and yet they made better, more durable songs than the Beatles and the Stones. And much funnier video.

In the immortal words of Mark David Chapman:

"Lennon was a phony of the highest degree, but there were others who could – and would- have served the same purpose."

Blogger Uncle John's Band June 07, 2021 3:23 PM  

<> "Be well!"

And the flounce!

If retards like this self-parody and "Mikesbo" were better written or smarter, you'd think they were made up.

Blogger Gator McCluskey June 07, 2021 3:33 PM  

@156 "I was a kid in school in the 70's as well" so you were just lying when you said Gen X was the Me Generation. Typical

Blogger OneWingedShark June 07, 2021 3:35 PM  

Scott wrote:(((who))) designed the boomers?
Listening to their self-described mythology: they sprang, fully-formed, from their own heads.

DasAxiom wrote:Boomers who are sitting atop their high castles, like to watch the rest of us struggle and suffer while pretending that the never ending hardships they are forcing upon us is some how beneficial to our "character" (never theirs, because they are already "perfect").
As someone up-thread said: John Wayne in their own minds.

They happily push for mass migration/worker visas while mocking their own offspring for not being able to have high paying jobs or jobs at all, not accepting that their migration activism hurts rather than helps.
I still remember they (Congress) pushed for foreign workers in 2020 EVEN AS THE SHUTDOWNS WERE DISEMPLOYING MILLIONS; their advocating it only shows how they hate, loathe, and despise us.

Its as though the arrested development they pushed on everyone else has nothing to do with them. You can't even buy a dilapidated shack (from the boomer who owns it) in some cities now without taking out a jumbo loan.
Like relationships, the Boomer must profit: in no case can he take a loss, nor be inconvenienced.

Paulito wrote:@Jim M " you're too busy protesting crap, donating to climate scams and such"
You claim to like this blog, then write a sentence like that which proves that you have either not read it or didn't understand what you read.

Theory: It's Snidley's Alt account, giving us a lot to laugh at.

Snidely Whiplash wrote:@Fatty said
"It wasn't the boomers that moved away"
sell their birthright, flood their home with nepotistic foreigners, drive the price of housing completely out of sight, destroy the economy so there is no work, and then blame them when they move to where there are other White people, houses they can afford, and jobs for non-Chinese.
Boomer move

I've said it before: Boomers are the type to complain about their children not planting trees for them to sit under… but would totally spite younger generations by cutting it down and using it for firewood over the winter.

Blogger Jim June 07, 2021 3:36 PM  

Mikesbo wrote:Here's a bigger point. When "the day of the pillow" comes and you assholes kill off your parents, grandparents, whatever, do you think the world will simply reset to happy unicorns, rainbows, and equal wealth distribution due to your impeccable altruistic leadership, or do you think that after the Gateses, Soroses, Bezoses, Buffets, are all gone, it will be gen-x assholes who hold 90% of the wealth in 1% of the population?

All that wealth has been being transferred to the Indians via outsourcing and H-1B1 visas, because Boomers value foreign labor over their kids.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 07, 2021 3:43 PM  

Mikesbo wrote:Here's a bigger point. When "the day of the pillow" comes and you assholes kill off your parents, grandparents, whatever, do you think the world will simply reset to happy unicorns, rainbows, and equal wealth distribution due to your impeccable altruistic leadership,
Yes, obviously this. [Heavy Sarcasm]

or do you think that after the Gateses, Soroses, Bezoses, Buffets, are all gone, it will be gen-x assholes who hold 90% of the wealth in 1% of the population?
What will be your story then?

No.
It's not going to be GenX, or Millennials, or GenZ.
Like Social Security, The Money Is Gone.
It's going to be rebuilding.
Hell, the reason we can't kill the illegal aliens is because Boomers are too prissy and full of their own virtue-signaling, loving the foreigner more than their nation's children, and more than their own children: for do you think they would raise a cry about "the murder of human beings" were it applied to our own peoples? (Hint 1: Abortion. Hint 2: Boomers have been Congressional power for 30 years.)

Blogger Fatty June 07, 2021 3:51 PM  

I'm a millennial , I view the boomer generation like a spoiled kid with rich parents, because they accumulated alit of wealth without having to work that hard . As with a spoiled kid , boomers can be selfish snotbags but it's not completely their fault

The boomers hit it lucky as far as the explosion of debt based currency , the increased trade deficit etc. It was not boomers that laid the foundation for all that.
Same goes with alot of immigration laws .


Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 3:56 PM  

@149 the non-white immigrants and voters have zero loyalty to whites, even the Boomer who voted them here. To scare them, point out the same Marxist Gen Y/Z believe in euthanasia. And white privilege.

@152 God did not give us free will in the no consequences sense, he gave us a nature. No, you cannot be as a god, that's pride talking and as an adult you won't change an r-brain with a small amygdala into a k-brain. That doesn't happen. PUAs are genetic suicides (MGTOW gammas) and cultural losers, as r-selected as SJWs. Never emulate a genetic failure. Men are not equal, especially compared to one another as the masculinity demands. Some men are superior and know them by their fruits. Let's see a divorce risk study in men versus his notch count (explaining Boomers) before you act like the data was taken/published with positive claims it's all fine and consequence free (free love) sin. It's an MLM because like China and India, there aren't enough nubile women to go around but you all feel, after decades of 'playing the field' and damaging other men's goods, you sure feel ENTITLED to the best ones now, don't you?
Watching Boomers flirt with young women is evil/unnatural, as a comment above noted. They're trying to steal from the stock of their own young like leeches. You're not young anymore, get over it. It's embarrassing watching Boomer men assume all waitresses are actually flirting with them. All service workers are friendly to old men.
Game is a short term mating strategy and irrelevant to K-types.

Blogger Beery Swine June 07, 2021 4:10 PM  

Unknown wrote:Some moral people need to marry down with former degenerates or remain unmarried as the Bible decrees.

This is the big conundrum, and probably the single biggest contributing factor to the MGTOW movement, despite their proclaimed reasons being purely financial and legal in nature. I have this problem, myself. I've been a degenerate by moral standards, but even by standards from the early 90s I was never more than "Wow, that guy must be pretty dagone conservative", yet I don't want to "settle" for some thot. When the average number of sexual partners for women in your age group is in the upper double digits, where do you even find someone in the single digits? I don't know, and I don't even care anymore. Plus I'm not exactly husband material anyway, as in I don't want kids, I'm not uber-masculine, I was raised by Judeo-Christian boomers, and I could go on and on and on.

I think I'll just be celibate at this point, probably for the rest of my life, but who knows? Maybe God has something else in store for me if I continue on the path. Doubtful, but you never know.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 4:16 PM  

@162 the Judas generation who not only opened the gates for the Trojan horse, but held them open for more of the same. Race traitors, in short.

Blogger White Knight Leo #0368 June 07, 2021 4:31 PM  

I expect I'm quite the outlier, as I'm a Millennial who has had great family ties for my entire life. I got to see my grandparents all the time while they were alive, and my dad at least inherited a fair bit from his dad (so did his siblings). My parents are Boomers but they really buck the trend; they're almost compulsive savers, and Mom's sister happily took in Grandma when she got too old to care for herself.

That said, a lot of my friends' parents while I was in school were closer to the standard Boomer model.

Blogger Mikesbo June 07, 2021 4:50 PM  

@162, yes, I was being heavily sarcastic. Good catch.

The oligarchs will remain wealthy, and when the current generation is gone, another, yours, will replace them. Will their wealth be exclusively in the US? It is already not.

@161, and the very first ME-er who takes the reins somewhere will bring this evil practice (and it is evil) to an end, right? I've not seen it yet. In fact, I see your generation shooting us all in the head with even greater enthusiasm than did "mine."

Blogger Glen Sprigg June 07, 2021 5:02 PM  

Fatty wrote:I'm a millennial , I view the boomer generation like a spoiled kid with rich parents, because they accumulated alit of wealth without having to work that hard . As with a spoiled kid , boomers can be selfish snotbags but it's not completely their fault

The boomers hit it lucky as far as the explosion of debt based currency , the increased trade deficit etc. It was not boomers that laid the foundation for all that.

Same goes with alot of immigration laws .


No, they didn't lay the foundation. But they sure as hell built on it, and did absolutely nothing to reverse the decline. They reveled in it.

We don't blame them for what their parents and older siblings did. We revile them for what they refused to do to fix it. It wasn't the Silents aborting a third of their children in the womb; it was the Boomers. It wasn't the Greatest Generation sending all the good-paying jobs overseas and leaving nothing but fast-food and retail work for us; it was the Boomers.

The Boomers earned every scrap of contempt we have for them. Weep not for the Boomer, for his fate is well-deserved.

Blogger xevious2030 June 07, 2021 5:09 PM  

Gen X will get to see Boomers die. All of them. Until there are no more. You won't be throwing a cinder block to anyone at that point.

Blogger Eugenius BEar June 07, 2021 5:30 PM  

@83

The Meh Generation......you know meh....or as I like to call it "Lazy Cocaine"

Blogger Gen. Kong June 07, 2021 5:32 PM  

Listening to their self-described mythology: they sprang, fully-formed, from their own heads.

Indeed. A legend in their own minds.

Steve Sailer (a boomer) made an interesting observation about generational labeling - largely a creation of (((Madison Avenue))). It largely applies only to the USSA, to a lesser degree Western Europe (who were of course already aping the Amurikans). He did note that the boomers were the first generation to buy into this particular gold-painted turd.

VD's observation goes futher: Many boomers' sole identity is centered solely on this fake-creation of (((Madison Avenue))) - hence the serious butthurt now that so many chickens have come home to roost. The con worked kind of like magic dirt theory does: If you were born in the Age of Aquarius, you were someone special - regardless of whether you were a poor farm kid, a spoiled suburbanite, yankee or southron. It's still going on of course. Now every generation has a label and a set of expectations which might be different, but lies are at the root just the same.

You were "in" as long as you did what was expected to tossed all the old identities aside to embrace this new fake one broadcast over the television from sea to sea. It was all a lie of course, most were never "in" apart from the usual ticket-takers. They fell for it in massive numbers of course - and many of them clutch it desperately to this very day. The greatest thing the boomers have done for those who follow is to serve as a warning of what happens when you reject truth for lies and reality for fantasy.

Blogger Jim M June 07, 2021 5:32 PM  

You kids have provided a few good laughs today. A perfect day of discourse, laughter and some 30 year old scotch. Cheers and keep rowing at Ramming Speed to keep the social security coming for my less fortunate co-boomers :) You live to serve this ship, row well and live. Ramen for all of you.

Blogger SemiSpook37 June 07, 2021 5:43 PM  

Even with paragraphs, it was becoming a wall of text, so here's the short and sweet version:

1. On average, about 45 days/year. Maternal grandmother skewed the average when she'd stay with us for a month or two.
2. Not there, yet. Thankfully, I've been in my children's life enough that I see no poles on the horizon.
3. Not sure what I'll get from dad, my grandfathers gave me a bit of a temper, a crappy mood while inebriated, and some sort of auto-immune condition that will eventually end me. Not sure how to look at that one.
4. My hope is that I will be able to provide more for each child and potential grandchild. I'm actually in a place where I can potentially do that, depending on how things shape up in the next 12 months. The mitigating factor there is all the morons surrounding me and the Boomers that are in the majority of those morons.

Blogger Beery Swine June 07, 2021 5:47 PM  

SJ wrote:Learn game, take a slut out of the matriarchy and put her in your patriarchy . . . .

From my perspective, there is less than nothing to be gained from marrying a ho. It's the equivalent of buying a vase that's been shattered into hundreds of pieces and trying to glue it back together. If others would seek to take up this charge, then I wish them all the blessings of God, because they're clearly more optimistic than I am. The future just isn't for me.

Blogger Balam June 07, 2021 5:49 PM  

@Fatty
''It was not boomers that laid the foundation for all that.''

The poor heckin boomers noooo don't make fun of them dey gud bois! It's not like they had a lifetime of the most extreme wealth and opportunity in the entire history of recorded mankind! Y-you gotta blame...um...uh..Adam and Eve! Yeah and.... Shakespeare and Aristotle yeah! Don't hold the boomers culpable noooo please don't. Laws just ''''''somehow'''''' can't be passed when Boomers are in charge didn't you know that? Wealthy powerful groups can never change things to make it easier for their own families, just ask the Jews, indians and Muslims. You can't just pass laws banning boycott of nation X, restricting the amount of whites in universities or giving aid to families of color. It's absolutely impossible!!

Spare us Fatty there's no need to do damage control for Boomers. They won't let you have the sloppy seconds with the latest 19 yr old sugar baby they've forced into poverty. Somehow you are claiming that Boomers can't change the American institution when they've spent their whole life selling it off piecemeal for more money. Do you think it was an easy matter to lose all manufacturing edge, border control, sell your kids into slavery, have sex with teens as an elderly, enable pedophiles, abort millions of people, void all pensions for everyone but your own generation, etc? They could have sat down on their hands and did nothing and most of that would not have come to pass no matter what's 'legal'. There was a will and, as you so conveniently exclude, when it was still against the law the Boomers did it anyways. They've turned so much of the constitution into swiss cheese that simple carrying guns and guaranteeing a speedy trial, much less as honest election, is a fight to the death for us nowadays.

Blogger Canada78Bear June 07, 2021 6:13 PM  

If you are retired and do not live in the same state as your grandchildren, then you made your choice quite clear.

Blogger RedJack June 07, 2021 6:18 PM  

When my wife was in the hospital because of life threatening complications with my youngest, my mom complained that "Well, I am moving to the west coast and this is delaying my move!"

Now she complains we don't fly out from the Midwest to see her enough, since she is to old to fly.

And we need to stay in a hotel so she won't be bothered.

Boomers going to boom.

Blogger papabear June 07, 2021 6:23 PM  

@173 A gamma Boomer...

Blogger SJ June 07, 2021 6:27 PM  

After a few years writing and doing my best to help younger guys I gave up myself. I just say now, losers always lose. By choice.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 7:05 PM  

@175 you said you are a former degenerate yourself. So many MGTOW are washed-up players who feel entitled to virgin brides. But virgin brides don't want the STDs of a 'reformed' degenerate man, they want a chaste man of God, a fellow K-type who's a virgin themselves. So there is Boomer-like entitlement, especially to marry down into a shrinking pool of younger white women. Hollywood lied to you, women don't want James Bond, he's an STD-ridden alcoholic domestic abusing Boomer. They want Mr Darcy.

@176 sexual predation on younger gens is really detestable and used to be viewed as abnormal because it takes advantage of youthful naivety and innocence for corruption. The pedo-pushers are already using age gaps as an example of shifting sands.

Blogger Jim June 07, 2021 7:10 PM  

Mikesbo wrote:@161, and the very first ME-er who takes the reins somewhere will bring this evil practice (and it is evil) to an end, right? I've not seen it yet. In fact, I see your generation shooting us all in the head with even greater enthusiasm than did "mine."

Those who sow thorns do not get to complain when the harvest isn't wheat.

Blogger Thomas James Foster June 07, 2021 7:31 PM  

The boomer bite is hysterical. I never really liked the okay boomer meme because I thought it was boomerish itself and therefore hypocritical and cringey but your boomer critique and some of the responses have given me a wierd kind of joy.

Blogger MonsoonBear June 07, 2021 7:33 PM  

papabear wrote:@173 A gamma Boomer...
Dios mio...

Blogger Thomas James Foster June 07, 2021 7:48 PM  

*One way to judge a culture is by its art, as AC has noted and personally, I'd love a whole book on it, Vox. In the olden days, nude paintings were for the bedroom, usually behind a curtain so guests couldn't see. Nowadays, I've been to supposedly traditional homes, and they have awful, 'degenerate art', as the Germans called it. I mean, a nude woman with her breasts out in the living room, around children and nobody cares. It's like a goldfish noticing water. Think Yoko and that Beatle posing nude. America should've rioted against the first strip clubs that made this acceptable, it's Babylonian. They also have a lot of postmodern CIA op 'art'. It's a good tell of the soul.*

All high culture has nudes in art. It is almost the measure of high culture that they can enjoy the naked and erotic without slavering or frothing over it. As Blake said, 'Art cannot exist without naked beauty displayed.'

Blogger xevious2030 June 07, 2021 7:52 PM  

“You live to serve this ship, row well and live. Ramen for all of you.”

Finally, no pretense. May it catch on like wildfire.

Blogger Army of the Unborn June 07, 2021 7:54 PM  

God commands us to hate the wicked... how immature of Him. He must be projecting on us so he doesn’t have to realize his own problems.

Blogger Rottweiler June 07, 2021 7:58 PM  

@ JimM keep gloating. You'll get the Cambodian treatment soon enough boomer. Genz is looking at the Khmer Rouge as a trial run.

Blogger Eugenius BEar June 07, 2021 8:29 PM  

@182

.....and those who work naked at a chemical plant don't get to complain about their rashes.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 07, 2021 9:32 PM  

Hey, I want the nude that hangs right by my father's front door. It's a charcoal, about three foot by two foot. At least it did until he married a respectable lady. Tasteful, and all that. The model and the artist were friends of his, apparently. It won't go by the front door, because I am not a degenerate bachelor living his best life while someone else, prudish, repressed, religious, raises his children.

There might actually be a fight over it. My brother collects art. It won't be a fight, if he wants it, come to think of it, because I love my brother. Unlike, you know, any of the Boomer relatives.






Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 9:44 PM  

@185 Blake was a Satanist. The erotic, in public, is degenerate. Such paintings used to be for the bedroom because they were pornography. Those paintings. Not a sculpture of Adam and Eve. I mean pagan nudes intended to entice and arouse.

@190 Prudish? For knowing art history of softcore porn? Such things used to be hidden in the bedroom for men to get off on. Behind curtains or in small wardrobes/cupboards at the back. You sound like a Boomer, people are allowed to find the degenerate, thus. People are not repressed for distinguishing the artistic from the pornographic, that's Freudian propaganda. Religious is not an insult. In other posts you larp as traditional woman, which is it, pick-me?
You could just do the logical thing and have a print made of it.

Blogger Andrea Daley Utronebel June 07, 2021 10:05 PM  

Boomers' parents spoiled the kids.

https://youtu.be/GJMciK6xWrk

Blogger Andrea Daley Utronebel June 07, 2021 10:07 PM  

Boomers were the first TV generation. So, they had a third parent. Or, a second parent in cases where kids grew up in single-parent homes.

Once the TV entered society, both parents and children were watching the tube than talking to one another.

Blogger Beery Swine June 07, 2021 10:11 PM  

Unknown wrote:@175 you said you are a former degenerate yourself. So many MGTOW are washed-up players who feel entitled to virgin brides.

As I said, by 90s standards, I was conservative af, but still a degenerate by Biblical standards. I was never a player. If you want a real number, 8 women, and I never cheated, tho there were some just extended one-night stands which I thought were relationships at the time. My fault, all of them, and I was an atheist for most of them. I do not advocate for MGTOW, nor have I ever, and I have no STDs. I'm not James Bond, nor do I even like the movies, except for Casino Royale and Goldfinger (lulzie, that one). I have always been K-type, even when I tried to go R-type to be "normal" (never actually went thru with anything, I can't be comfortable with a woman I don't care about). You seem to have been reading a lot into my post without any evidence.

My standard isn't "intact hymen", but less than 10 would be nice. 10 per month is average now in some cities. Regardless, celibacy is my path, and I don't recommend it for others, but I'm fine with this.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 07, 2021 10:20 PM  

You do realize that the oldest Millennials are 40, yes? (So NOT the tide-pod eating, "what bathroom!?" bullshit.)
It's because Millennials are are really broken into at least two, maybe even three cohorts.
So no one is actually sure who is a millennial and who isn't.
I'm not even sure sometimes. I just know I hate avacado toast, maintain Perfect Dark is still a great game, and that 9/11 was the turning point in culture.

Blogger Thomas James Foster June 07, 2021 10:35 PM  

All true artists, especially young men, love to depict beautiful young women, especially naked ones in painting. But it is in fact real artists who are almost the least degenegate and lecherous, because they sublimate perception and percieve the transcendent beauty over wanting to boink. A lot of great artists that painted naked women beautifully lived otherwise almost like monks.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 07, 2021 11:29 PM  

#191. I was being sarcastic. My father had a nude by the front door. It's a good charcoal. It's the Umbrella in my name,fwiw.

It's not an appropriate print for the front door of a house full of children. He didn't have a house full of children. I've mentioned this a few times. He had many single women in his apartment. My grandparents had art they'd bought. Their parents had the Protestant classic prints- praying hands, and so on.

I happen to like the charcoal, but I also happen to like having children around, so my brother can probably have it if he wants it. It would be in a less public room, obviously.

But, I also like Jeff Koons work, including the ones of him schtupping La Cicciolina. It's pretty. I like the big rabbit sculptures. I like the La Primavera. I like the puttis in churches. I like some modernist art. I like the prints the local artists make, and their pencil sketches, and their acrylics. I just had to pay more than I'm comfortable with for a very nice piece. It was a gift. The recipient made sure it was signed, on the chance that it will be valuable in a few decades.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 07, 2021 11:38 PM  

I'm alt-right, not because "my parents raised me right: I got mine and now I get to judge you!" I'm alt-right because I grew up in the alternative left, and it is hell on earth. That short story about an orc going to Jesus that Vox wrote in his Selenoth collection? It's not a wild fiction. It is the only way me, or any of my friends, come to think of it, came to any Good. How do you think I have any interest in the things I write about? I am as self-centered and solipsistic as any other woman.

Blogger Monkeyb00y June 08, 2021 1:03 AM  

@Geoffroi de Bohemonde
Thank you for sharing. Truly.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit June 08, 2021 2:21 AM  

@49 DH. Nah. But Queen was cool. I used to draw album cover pix for friends.

@76. Reruns. How I discovered Star Trek, and I Love Lucy; both dead before I was born.

Here is are follow up questions:

So you retired to be near the kids, but military and other free-market labour forces scattered them. When you have to move again, over health considerations, do they fight over who gets to have you live with or near them? Are the losers, who don't get mom and dad nearby, salty?

Not a Boomer.

And at your 50th wedding anniversary, did all your children chip in to send you to Hawaii on a "honeymoon" because you never got one? And when you tried to protest it was too much, they said, "After all you sacrificed for us, do not be silly."

Not a Boomer.

And when you look around at the Clown World we live in, do you say to your kids, "My generation really screwed the pool. I wish I'd understood better what was going on. I wish I'd been able to do more to stop it. We tried, but we were so busy with work, and church, and raising our kids, and volunteering in the community, and helping extended family... We just took the breaks we got and did not look twice at the poisoned pills, or the double-think. Mea Culpa.

Not a Boomer.

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