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Monday, June 07, 2021

More evidence of the obvious

The white line of silence has apparently been broken:

Two U.S. experts have penned a damning essay saying that science strongly suggests the novel coronavirus was manufactured inside a Chinese laboratory.  The claim was made by Drs Stephen Quay, CEO of biopharmaceutical company Atossa Therapeutics Inc, and Richard Muller, a physics professor at the University of California Berkeley, in The Wall Street Journal on Sunday.

In the op-ed, the men say their proof lies in genome sequencing, or analyzing the DNA, of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

There are 36 DNA segments - made up of three-letter 'words' - that viruses use to make an amino acid known as L-arginine.

L-arginine helps make proteins but is also often used in so-called 'gain of function' research, which alters viruses to make them more transmissible and more deadly.

The new virus contains a segment called CGG-CGG, which is considered rare even in experiments in which researchers are trying to manipulate virus.

But even more telling is that this combination has never been found naturally in any other type of coronavirus, including in SARS and MERS, both of which are cousins of the new virus.

There will be more to come. A lot more to come.

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125 Comments:

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 07, 2021 4:05 PM  

Grist for the mill.
...and the whole house has to come down even if we are still in it.

Blogger Johnny June 07, 2021 4:11 PM  

Not only did they do it to us, but our side helped them do it.

Blogger John (not the pope) June 07, 2021 4:13 PM  

I'm not sure who our Samson will be, but he's got his hands on the pillars. Of that I am sure.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 4:13 PM  

The viruses were made in an ENGLISH laboratory, financed by JEWISH money, transported to China via CANADIANS.
The only guilt China have is that, the canadians were caught. And so allowed to enter unimpeded from orders up above.

Blogger Beery Swine June 07, 2021 4:19 PM  

In the op-ed, the men say their proof lies in genome sequencing, or analyzing the DNA, of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

Am I the only one who sees them admitting to studying SARS but then talking about CORONU, as if it's just another "HIV causes AIDS" bullshit line?

Where's the COVID-19? Show us the CORONU. Isolate it.

spoiler: they can't because it either just plain old don't be real or because it's a modified flu, and in either case the non-sheeple just may suddenly remember their numbers if this information got out.

Blogger Some Guy June 07, 2021 4:23 PM  

The real question is if they are trying to push us into war with China. We won't win.

Blogger Hammerli 280 June 07, 2021 4:24 PM  

Waterboard Fauci.

Blogger Ms. Pepe Kay Green June 07, 2021 4:25 PM  

Rob Unz is pushing a theory about Fort Deitrick, to what end who knows.

Blogger Dafo June 07, 2021 4:29 PM  

Fauci reminds me a lot of the rat from ninja turtles, but controlled by krang the brain.

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 4:31 PM  

when the not-vaxxed foetuses are born, the circuses will be happy.

Blogger Ferdl June 07, 2021 4:32 PM  

While I also believe that this virus was manufactured, I would be careful with anything that this Mueller guy says. This is the same guy who intervened during another big credibility crisis of the "we need to make the rich richer in order to save the world"-satanic-scientists: the climate gate e-mail crisis and the handling/manipulation of temperature data by scientists and the satanic bureaucracies employing them (Nasa etc). He first wrote very damning reports and gave lectures which circulated on youtube. Naturally all skeptics jumped on this saying "You see, even in your own satanic stronghold Berkeley people start to be embarrassed by your lies." Of course, as soon as people started to rely heavily on this argument, Mr Mueller recanted and said that he now realizes that he was wrong and that he is now a firm believer in climate alarmism. And now the alarmists shout "You see, this skeptic that you have used as your witness has changed his opinion; what more proof do you need to accept our lies as the eternal truth?" I have no idea if Mueller got bought (approval of a big research grant or something like that) or if he got his position exactly because he is supposed to play this role. Whatever is the case, I would not at all be surprised if Mueller recanted also his current claims in order to hurt the faction which tries to get the truth out.

Blogger Azimus June 07, 2021 4:34 PM  

This should lead to indictments and imprisonment of "elites", not war with China. The Chinese were, afterall, only doing the research they contracted with Gollum to do.

Blogger TechieDude June 07, 2021 4:34 PM  

Gratifying for them to circle back and admit what everyone with two brain cells to rub together figured out over a year ago using Occam's Razor.

Blogger The Harlequin Romance of Neutron Bombs June 07, 2021 4:48 PM  

How long before it gets bad enough that it forces Zuckerberg out at Facebook is what I want to know. Since he colluded with Fauci to suppress info about the wuflu that they both knew to be true.

Not that I'd expect this to change anything for the better, I just enjoy watching the casualties

Blogger The Gaelic Lands June 07, 2021 4:48 PM  

Oy Vey! Just more of the psyop to misdirect away from the fact that this pandemic was a complete non-event, other than the governmental shutdown madness. Keep the attention on the scary-virus from the Wuhan Clan and then line up for your not-vax.

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 07, 2021 4:49 PM  

If you would have asked me in 2020 which two msm outlets would have the goods on this story, I would never have guessed NewsWeek and The Daily Fail. I wonder how long until a Jew York Times Op-Ed is released, and after that, how long we have to wait until there's the Mocking Bird Chorus?

Blogger Zander Stander June 07, 2021 4:49 PM  

Considering that the virus has not been isolated, how can they prove that this sequence, probably obtained through PCR, comes from covid-19? I know the 'it has never been isolated' is a staple tinfoil hat claim ever since HIV, but in this case a CNN article about the vaxx proclaimed that it was not necessary to isolate it, just sequence & model. Or should we vaxx up because it is real, only not coming from bats as the !SCIENCE! previously showed?

Blogger DrivingDissent June 07, 2021 4:59 PM  

But look at the UFO's.

Blogger Rebel Shoat June 07, 2021 4:59 PM  

Once again man kills more people with science than religion.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 07, 2021 5:02 PM  

"The new virus contains a segment called CGG-CGG, which is considered rare even in experiments in which researchers are trying to manipulate virus."

I think that may be a simultaneously more accurate and more vague statement of what the other guy was reported as talking about, physically impossible configurations.

Blogger Caleb June 07, 2021 5:27 PM  

Probably made in a lab. But why jump to the conclusion it was mad ein a Chinese one if it was made in a lab? There is open-source Intel that indicates that DARPA was also experimenting with coronaviruses, and ZOG may have hoped to damage the Chinese economy under the expectation that China will be harder for the small-hats to subvert.

Blogger RadixMalorum June 07, 2021 5:32 PM  

I suspect this is merely a shifting of narratives instead of the truth coming out. Recently I've noticed the Promethean controlled nations shifting narratives against China as they increasingly come to the conclusion that it's not willing to be the next host.

Biden just last year was calling Trump a racist for suspecting China and now he's launching a supposed "investigation" into the cause of COVID. It all reeks of the same kind of psy ops they played with the babies in incubators and WMDs lies to get the gullible western peoples behind wars in the middle east.

I'm increasingly suspecting that a major ruinous war with China and Russia is what the Prometheans are after to distract and cover up for their collapsing wicked system.

Blogger Scott June 07, 2021 5:33 PM  

Why do you suppose the MSM is crafting this as the next chapter of the covid narrative?

OMG!!! IT WAS M-M-MANUFACTURED!!! COVID IS NOW DOUBLE-DOG DANGEROUS!!!! MUST VAX HARDER!!!!!

Blogger Lazy Hero June 07, 2021 5:37 PM  

Im curious, why are they letting this info out? Why are they not stopping it? Thoughts? I dont see how this can help them but Im paranoid. And there's a voice in my head telling me that Putin is making them do this. No, I dont know how or even exactly why but that's what I'm thinking. More thoughts?

Blogger TruthsGotMyBack June 07, 2021 5:39 PM  

Allegedly C19 was first and foremost a globalist health/media event. If we allow the media to blame it on Wuhan they will be free to continue their shenanigans.

Blogger Gregory the Tall June 07, 2021 5:39 PM  

https://zenodo.org/record/4073131#.X38Q_O0RVPY

Dr. Yan: "We therefore define SARS-CoV-2 as an Unrestricted Bioweapon and the current pandemic a result of Unrestricted Biowarfare."
First heard the term "unrestricted war" here.

Blogger UrbanBight June 07, 2021 5:54 PM  

I remember when Li-Meng Yan Wrote a paper on the modification of the COVIDS, and I remember when she was lambasted for it, because the narrative was 'Trump=Hitler' and 'China is helping US.'
But, of course, it wasn't peer reviewed by the clowns at The Lancet, of the clowns at The New England Journal of Medicine, or any of the other turd organizations, where peer review scams happened by having peer-reviewers collude to review each other’s work.

https://zenodo.org/record/4028830?fbclid=IwAR1KVHxpnBysoccZwFD5eBMGKdZRfKBSyhcAO1H_wWfkCqf7gzMu9r89Ark#.X19xByXZglR

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia June 07, 2021 5:54 PM  

It doesn't take a PhD in genetics and virology to reasonably conclude that the Wuhan was a ginned up construct.

But why?

Virologists love love LOVE themselves some gain of function research (I've crossed paths with some virologists, and trust me, doing this sort of research is the equivalent of a wet dream for these guys).

Theory #1. Ron "paranoia should be the default reaction" Unz has a very plausible argument that the thing was bio-weapon unleashed by the USA to screw up China's economy and, as an ancillary benefit, kill the elderly ruling elite in Iran who, interestingly, were dropping like flies in the early weeks of the pandemic. They thought it wouldn't get out of hand, but even if it did, so what? A few friendly fire casualties was worth it.

Theory #2 -- The whole thing stems from the desires of the Francis Collins-Tony Fauci cabal to farm out this research via Peter Daszak's Eco Health Alliance because these yahoos really believed if they understood crazy mutations they would be able to counter them more easily,so when the next great pandemic occurred they could ride to the rescue of the planet. And they couldn't do it themselves, so they arms-lengthed the whole thing to skirt regulations and potential culpability. And the USA defense established went along to learn things about potential bio weapons and threw a bunch of money to Eco Health.

Ever since he trumpeted the possibility of an AIDS virus, Fauci wanted to be the second coming of Jonas Salk. But the guy who sweeps up at the end of the day forgot to close the door on the way out of the Level 4 lab at the Wuhan Virology institute and the rest is history.

Theory 3 -- All of theory 2, plus Deep Staters, in collaboration, with the ChiComs, using the Fauci-Collins cabal as a foil, and then unleashing the virus to ultimately derail the US economy and depose the GE who was standing in their way. The Chinese went along because (a) they could impose draconian measures to limit their own casualties (remember, China is a country that has no problem slaughtering millions of its citizens for political power) and (b)the long term geopolitical benefits would be huge with a weakened USA, even if they wound up being blamed.

Personally, I thing Theory 2 is the most likely, but if 1 or 3 turn out to be the case...there will NOT be enough popcorn.


Blogger M. ANTHONY June 07, 2021 5:55 PM  

The lab origin of the virus, combined with the work of Geert vanden Bossche on the likelihood of the not-vaccines inhibiting an immune response to current and future variants and the suppression of use of Ivermectin and other therapies can't be contained for much longer.

Blogger Blunt Force June 07, 2021 5:57 PM  


China weaponized a virus via gain-of-fuction manipulation, which being illegal for the US government to do, they surreptitiously funded a foreign country to do the research. The question now is, which of the bad actors released Covid 19 and for what purpose?
I'm sitting on pins and needles waiting for Congress to do a full investigation into why a charity receives millions in public money to fund illegal GOF research in a foreign country.

The Pentagon gave $39 MILLION to Dr. Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance - the charity that funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan lab accused of being the source of the outbreak, federal data reveals

Federal grant data assembled by independent researchers shows that the charity has received more than $123 million from the government in total
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9652287/The-Pentagon-funneled-39million-charity-funded-Wuhan-lab.html

Blogger Charlie June 07, 2021 6:01 PM  

https://www.bitchute.com/video/euFyRNvL2jft/
Dr. Tom Cowan along with David Icke and Jon Rappoport maintain that there is no virus. That the gain of function has to with the not-vaccines. They are the real bio-weapon. The virus has always been the excuse for them.

Blogger Tanjil Bren June 07, 2021 6:04 PM  

We were all helping to fund this research (Australia's CSIRO contributed AUD 4 million, as far as I'm aware).

And there's little doubt in my mind that the (faulty) thinking ran along the lines of 'Where would you prefer risky virus experimentation was being conducted: in your backyard or China's?'

More importantly, though, is whether they also knew that China was working on producing a selective globe killer.

Absolutely nothing surprises me anymore.

Blogger wahr01 June 07, 2021 6:05 PM  

The Harlequin Romance of Neutron Bombs wrote:How long before it gets bad enough that it forces Zuckerberg out at Facebook is what I want to know. Since he colluded with Fauci to suppress info about the wuflu that they both knew to be true.

Facebook was erected as a "pull" replacement to the "push" for the infamous lifelog total surveillance project.

He will be given massive government pork for what he has done as a CIA operative in service to Fauci.

Blogger eclecticme June 07, 2021 6:16 PM  

Seems complicated. It seems the research never stopped.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2021/06/05/interesting-timing-obama-administration-lifted-block-on-gain-of-function-research-just-eleven-days-before-president-trump-took-office-january-9-2017/Interesting Timing – Obama Administration Lifted Block on “Gain of Function Research” Just Eleven Days Before President Trump Took Office, January 9, 2017
June 5, 2021 | Sundance | 554 Comments
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[U.S. Government Gain-of-Function Deliberative Process and Research Funding Pause on Selected Gain-of-Function Research Involving Influenza, MERS, and SARS Viruses – pdf, page 2 – October 17, 2014]

This exception essentially permitted the Pentagon to continue funding the creation of SARS as a biological weapon in Wuhan, China, under the auspices of national security. Which is exactly what the defense department did: “Grants from the Pentagon included $6,491,025 from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) from 2017 to 2020” (link).
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Blogger Coroña DeNier June 07, 2021 6:19 PM  

Our understandings of viruses are still a (germ) theory at best. This feels more like a media narrative to blame China for own poor health, and beat those war drums. If the not-vax isnt hitting bodycounts fast enough, maybe global war will. These reset pushers are exhausting.

Blogger Blunt Force June 07, 2021 6:23 PM  

One virologist originally believed that Covid was a man-made virus, but after receiving a multi-million dollar research grant he discovered he was wrong. It happens.

A California virologist who told Anthony Fauci that COVID-19 looks ‘potentially engineered’ and ‘inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory’ – only to later reverse course and publish a ‘natural origin’ paper 8 weeks later (before receiving a multi million-dollar NIH grant) has deleted more than 5,000 tweets.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/virologist-who-told-fauci-sars-cov-2-potentially-engineered-just-deleted-5000-tweets

Blogger Canada78Bear June 07, 2021 6:23 PM  

This will be very interesting to see the mental gymnastics people will do to stick with the natural origin they believed and espoused for over a year now.

I'm eager to see how it was in fact Trump and the GOP pushing it all this time.

Blogger vaxyourlibs June 07, 2021 6:34 PM  

seasonal flu rates dropped to zero in the wuflu age how can anyone take this fauxi stuff seriously it's just a ruse for you to get vaxxed

Blogger Cable Salad June 07, 2021 6:52 PM  

Given Big Bear‘s batting average, this is probably indeed all a stunt to get people angry and to accept China as the enemy.

Let’s just hope they didn’t pull a „Seven Kill Tiger“ on us. I know, it’s just a story, but the only thing that made the Chinese think twice about releasing Huang Hu on the African population, was the West and the Western people‘s potential abilty to retaliate. But if they primed the West with a non-vaccine instead of Africa... There will indeed be more to come.

Blogger Shane Bradman June 07, 2021 6:53 PM  

Its a man made virus bioweapons, but the real killer was our governments that sold us out immediately. What is the vaccine to government?

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 07, 2021 7:16 PM  

Im curious, why are they letting this info out?

With today's media and social media, "out" is a relative term. Sometimes a story is leaked to a tabloid or conservative site or some other "non-reputable" outlet, to send a message. The message being: "this could be in the Times or on CNN if you don't play ball." That way, if the target does play ball, the story can still be "debunked" in the eyes of mainstream viewers and the status quo is maintained.

There seem to be intra-cabal power struggles happening already, now that they don't have Trump to unite against. They all have dirt on each other, so one way to jockey for position is to show what you have and what you can do with it. But as long as they're showing it only in non-MSM outlets, it's probably negotiation more than outright battle.

Blogger Jake Burton June 07, 2021 7:16 PM  

Guys, the ATF just released their proposed rules butchering pistol brace rights. It completely bans pistol braces on glocks, berettas, etc regular size handguns and bans most of them on ar15s. Please go to their twitter or FB and leave messages! It seriously helped make them back off in december 2020 when they wanted to attack pistol braces!

Blogger Unknown June 07, 2021 7:19 PM  

@40 an end to the Boomer pension problem. They live too long. Now the State has more money. Socialism kills.

Blogger urthshu June 07, 2021 7:22 PM  

This is very good news.

Blogger OneWingedShark June 07, 2021 7:23 PM  

Johnny wrote:Not only did they do it to us, but our side helped them do it.
I've maintained that if there was ANY US involvement in it, they should be publicly tried for treason and publicly hanged if convicted — and I mean ANY, up to and including "Orders, directly from the President".

Unknown wrote:when the not-vaxxed foetuses are born, the circuses will be happy.
I wonder if there are genetically heritable 'surprises' from the not-vaccine… and if we'll need to embrace the Warhammer 40,000 mindset to survive.
"Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean."

Azimus wrote:This should lead to indictments and imprisonment of "elites", not war with China. The Chinese were, afterall, only doing the research they contracted with Gollum to do.
"Following Orders."

The Harlequin Romance of Neutron Bombs wrote:How long before it gets bad enough that it forces Zuckerberg out at Facebook is what I want to know. Since he colluded with Fauci to suppress info about the wuflu that they both knew to be true.
Worse than that, there's leaked audio of the Z-man commenting on the DNA-alteration (yes, DNA; not RNA) of the not-vaccine gene-therapy.

The Gaelic Lands wrote:Oy Vey! Just more of the psyop to misdirect away from the fact that this pandemic was a complete non-event, other than the governmental shutdown madness. Keep the attention on the scary-virus from the Wuhan Clan and then line up for your not-vax.
No!
You are wrong.
EVERYONE involved involved in such a bioweapon, even tangentially, should be tried for Treason, Crimes against humanity, mass murder, and conspiracy to the same.
Otherwise they will do it again, believing that there is no consequence.

Lazy Hero wrote:Im curious, why are they letting this info out? Why are they not stopping it? Thoughts? I dont see how this can help them but Im paranoid. And there's a voice in my head telling me that Putin is making them do this. No, I dont know how or even exactly why but that's what I'm thinking. More thoughts?
Simple: Timing and narrative-control.
It also allows them to use their sacrificial scapegoats (eg Fauci, Gates, etc) while letting the more elite dodge/skate away.

Blogger Didas Kalos June 07, 2021 7:27 PM  

@john (not the pope). Pure hopium.

Blogger Didas Kalos June 07, 2021 7:31 PM  

@caleb. Perhaps because it first appeared in Chyna?

Blogger Blunt Force June 07, 2021 7:57 PM  

@39

I pray you are wrong,but my gut says otherwise.

Blogger xevious2030 June 07, 2021 8:02 PM  

China was going to rise to police the world, if, conditions.

Not conditions, then, different outcome.

Speaking of Three Rivers, Prometheans might race to cry crimes against humanity first. Whites in the US in Europe and USA are off hands to China. Time to pack things up, put away toys, and start new games.Prometheans staying in the lines, after lessons, China staying in the lines, after lessons. Plenty of time for the lake of fire for any necessary parties, without rushing to it. Best not to join those parties to begin with.

Blogger Didas Kalos June 07, 2021 8:08 PM  

For the virus nerds. https://lbry.tv/@Alternative-News:c/Virus-Isolation-Debate-DrAndrewKaufman-vs-JudyMikovits:f

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia June 07, 2021 8:12 PM  

Charlie wrote:https://www.bitchute.com/video/euFyRNvL2jft/

Dr. Tom Cowan along with David Icke and Jon Rappoport maintain that there is no virus. That the gain of function has to with the not-vaccines. They are the real bio-weapon. The virus has always been the excuse for them.


OK, I will add this as Theory #4. I think it is possible, but unlikely, because I think deep down these guys really think that vaccines are just the shits. All of them have God/Master of the Universe complexes that morph into these ostensibly altruistic yet fraught with unintended consequences efforts.

I also think they that in the end -- the business success of a Gates or the highly credentialed Fauci nothwithstanding -- they are simply not very smart.

Blogger DroppingBear June 07, 2021 8:16 PM  

100%

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 07, 2021 8:19 PM  

Ms. Pepe Kay Green wrote:Rob Unz is pushing a theory about Fort Deitrick, to what end who knows.

A major point made by Ron is the strange matter of Iran. The initial outbreak happened in January, 2020 in Wuhan. By February it had mysteriously spread to the Iranian parliament and infected 10% of it; several elder Iranian leaders died. How to explain this?

Ron makes other points, too, which are strongly suggestive of a covert operation afoot, using the virus as a bioweapon.

Blogger Army of the Unborn June 07, 2021 8:32 PM  

Start with the reality that viruses are not contagious (how could they be?). They need to be directly injected into your blood. Now use that context to appropriately interpret the plot as it unfolds.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer June 07, 2021 8:35 PM  

So, It was either

1. Treason
2. War
3. Treason and War

Blogger Seeingsights June 07, 2021 8:36 PM  

@24 Lazy Hero says "Lazy Hero June 07, 2021 5:37 PM
Im curious, why are they letting this info out? Why are they not stopping it? Thoughts? I dont see how this can help them but Im paranoid. And there's a voice in my head telling me that Putin is making them do this. No, I dont know how or even exactly why but that's what I'm thinking. More thoughts?"

The short answer why this is coming out now: the internet.

Imagine if something like COVID-19 emerged in the 1970s. In that era when there were only three to four major TV networks, when a big city had only two newspapers, when there were less than ten national news magazines (Time, Newsweek, US News and World Report, etc), the establishment narrative that the virus emerged wholly naturally would have had much greater sway.

Today, with the internet, we have an environment where anyone can offer their opinion, where there is more critical scrutiny than ever before. Nicholas Wade was a science writer for the legacy media. His brilliant essay, which I think kicked off this grand pushback against the establishment narrative, was originally published at Medium, an online site.

What is going on now is the realization of the promise of the internet.

Blogger Crew June 07, 2021 8:36 PM  

As a bioweapon it does not look that effective since it mostly kills old people.

However, maybe it was just a trial run!

Blogger Army of the Unborn June 07, 2021 8:40 PM  

How the hell would a war with China even happen? Would it just be sacrificing naval steel and jet fuel? Who’s invading who? It’s a suicide mission for either aggressor. Maybe China could occupy all the soy on the West Coast?

Blogger Jack Amok June 07, 2021 9:04 PM  

Personally, I thing Theory 2 is the most likely, but if 1 or 3 turn out to be the case...there will NOT be enough popcorn.

I agree about Theory 2 - most likely scenario, with the added caveat that only a moron would think a Chinese lab would have effective safety measures and anyone encouraging this is as guilty of murder as a drunk driver who plowed into a crowd at 60mph. Of course, it's increasingly obvious that Fauci is some type of moron, so...

Blogger Jack Amok June 07, 2021 9:05 PM  

this is probably indeed all a stunt to get people angry and to accept China as the enemy.

China is an enemy. Not the only one, but definitely one.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume June 07, 2021 9:14 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:

I wonder if there are genetically heritable 'surprises' from the not-vaccine… and if we'll need to embrace the Warhammer 40,000 mindset to survive.

"Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean."


I embraced that mindset at least 4 years ago.

Blogger Army of the Unborn June 07, 2021 9:15 PM  

Just gonna flash the nomenclature badge real quick to really lock the spell in... “yes yes, the elusive cytosine-guanine-guanine-cytosine-guanine-guanine sequence. This virus is as engineered as the people in G-A-T-T-A-C-A!”

Blogger Solon June 07, 2021 9:21 PM  

Listen to what they're saying: "it is not necessary to isolate it, just sequence and model."

How do they propose to sequence or model something that they haven't first isolated!? That's literally step ONE. Without it, they physically CANNOT prove that whatever "sequence" they come up with is actually the virus and not some other virus, or a hybrid virus-cell goop that has been contaminated.

Isolate FIRST. You need to prove that the virus, alone, by itself, is the cause of the disease. This will never be proven because viruses don't cause disease, disease causes viruses. "Viruses" are a normal part of a healthy functioning immune system.

And they know this but won't ever admit it because vaccines and not vaccines are a billion/trillion dollar industry.

Fun side note: "microbiology" is an extremely dangerous career path. They suffer an anomalously high mortality rate. But don't think about why: they're just unlucky, doncha know. Lot's of "muggings gone wrong," "suicides," "traffic accidents," and so forth.

Blogger Tanjil Bren June 07, 2021 9:24 PM  

"A major point made by Ron is the strange matter of Iran...How to explain this?"

An early theory about the Iranian outbreak was the China-Iran (Tehran) rail link.

Blogger Mad Dad June 07, 2021 9:28 PM  

CGG-CGG makes a very ominous baseline if you use a harmonic minor key.

Blogger Thomas James Foster June 07, 2021 9:28 PM  

There cannot be a general war against the Chinese, though I expect that might have been in the pipe. It just fell flat. Nobody is going to fight patriotically for the creeps and clowns in the Western governments now. I mean they might in self defense if the Chinese government hurls it's military around but the Chinese people would not sustain any global war. It's not their temperament and their rulers know that.

Blogger rumpole5 June 07, 2021 10:00 PM  

Unz makes a compelling case for the proposition that Covid 19 was a rogue operation of USA neocons. He infers this from several factors. Firstly, There were 2 prior viral epidemics that took place in China leading up to Covid 19: one in chickens and then one in pigs. These devastated Chinese meat production. Secondly, there were 300 Americans in Wuhan to participate in military games just before the Wuhan virus broke out. Thirdly, Covid 19 broke out among Iranian government elites almost immediately after it broke out in Wuhan. Most damning, was a report that American surveillance operatives warned in November '19 that a serious virus was a concern. That was before the Chinese government itself knew about the virus. Listen for yourself: https://www.unz.com/CONTENTS/AUDIO/kbarrett/KB-TJ_2021_0520-unz.mp3

Blogger eclecticme June 07, 2021 10:07 PM  


After three mile island people went nuts, but no one dead. After the Japanese nuke melt down two dead so far and people went nuts. The Chinese just killed 3 million people and nary a whisper. The Chinese have bought off way too many people in the US. The Chinese play hard ball but people in the US are cowards.

https://rumble.com/vht9cf-if-covid-was-lab-created-we-need-to-destroy-china.html

https://youtu.be/lVcpNtdU5i8
#121 Canada’s Corruption Fuels Chinese Drug War
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China Unscripted

China funnels fentanyl into the US. The US govt stays silent. They could put a 100% tariff on Chinese goods until it stops.

Blogger RadixMalorum June 07, 2021 10:10 PM  

Thomas James Foster wrote:There cannot be a general war against the Chinese, though I expect that might have been in the pipe. It just fell flat. Nobody is going to fight patriotically for the creeps and clowns in the Western governments now. I mean they might in self defense if the Chinese government hurls it's military around but the Chinese people would not sustain any global war. It's not their temperament and their rulers know that.

That's actually more worrying because it means it might be a nuclear one. The ruinous war will cover up the collapsing debt system and be used by the Prometheans as the official narrative of the subsequent collapse. In other words they can use it as a form of controlled demolition of the economy while all the blame can be placed on the scapegoat which will be China and/or Russia.

Blogger eclecticme June 07, 2021 10:24 PM  

See also
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B095YZY5GT/
https://twitter.com/scoopercooper
About Chinese infiltration of Canada

Blogger urthshu June 07, 2021 10:26 PM  

>>Of course, it's increasingly obvious that Fauci is some type of moron, so...

You know, I don't think so....I think he's not exactly public health at all but a bioweapons guy they sometimes roll out to kill selective parts of populations. Gays, boomers, whatever, he's fairly good at culling.

Blogger Jack Amok June 07, 2021 10:40 PM  

"A major point made by Ron is the strange matter of Iran...How to explain this?"

An early theory about the Iranian outbreak was the China-Iran (Tehran) rail link.


Same thing with the Italy outbreak - both areas had a heavy Chinese economic presence. Same frankly for the initial US outbreak, which was in the Seattle area and traced to a resident alien originally from Wuhan who had been visiting family back home.

Blogger Wm Jas Tychonievich June 07, 2021 10:47 PM  

So it’s Real Science after all to investigate whether something evolved naturally or was intelligently designed? Interesting precedent.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 07, 2021 10:58 PM  

Tanjil Bren wrote:"A major point made by Ron is the strange matter of Iran...How to explain this?"

An early theory about the Iranian outbreak was the China-Iran (Tehran) rail link.


Sounds like a theory proposed by a mis-director. That's a freight line, it's not fully operational, and even if it were it takes 15-16 days to get from Wuhan to Iran on it. It would really be astonishing if the virus traveled that route and then jumped from the freight yard into the parliamentary elite in a month.

It's far more likely that the virus was "helped" along the way to the Iranian statehouse.

Blogger Peter June 07, 2021 11:00 PM  

Brian Eno knew well enough:

Well, I rang up Pantucci,
Spoke to Lu-chi,
I gave them all
They needed to know.
If affairs are proceeding
As we're expecting,
Soon enough the weak spots will show.
I assume you understand that we have options on your time,
And will ditch you in the harbour if we must:
But if it all works out nicely,
You'll get the bonus you deserve
From doctors we trust.

The Fat Lady of Limbourg
Looked at the samples that we sent
And furrowed her brow.
You would never believe that
She'd tasted royalty and fame
If you saw her now.
But her sense of taste is such that she'll distinguish with her tongue
The subtleties a spectrograph would miss,
And announce her decision,
While demanding her reward:
The jellyfish kiss.

Now we checked out this duck quack
Who laid a big egg, oh so black
It shone just like gold.
And the kids from the city,
Finding it pretty, took it home,
And there it was sold.
It was changing hands for weeks till someone left it by their fire
And it melted to a puddle on the floor:
For it was only a candle, a Roman scandal oh oh oh,
Now it's a pool.
That's what we're paid for
That's what we're paid for
That's what we're paid for here.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos June 07, 2021 11:03 PM  

China would buy all of our food with dollars, take out all our grids via code installed with the Chinese-made hardware, use ground-based hypersonic missiles to destroy attacking vessels of any, and use their already placed political assets to prevent us from launching a nuclear strike. Remember your Sun Tzu.

Blogger SonyAD June 07, 2021 11:22 PM  

A lot more revelations and admissions to come? Or a lot more pathogens to come?

Victoria state in 'Straya made it mandatory to ihre papiere, bitte to buy bread or get your prescription filled out. Laying the groundwork for being able to identify and deny participation into the economy to those who've not taken the MotB. Straya seems to be a testing ground for measures which are weeks or months later deployed throughout the Globohomo Empire and its vassal and supplicant states.

In light of that, are these revelations, while true of a hypothetical artificial virus, true of the specific virus they claim is real, because the virus in question is indeed real, actually exists? Or is this just meant to get you to believe the virus exists, in case you were starting to doubt its existence, and so, hopefully, to get you to consider taking the not-vaccine?

Or is this Wuflu virus as real as Assad's chemical weapon attacks on his own people? Aren't the people insisting it is the same people desperate to get a 'needle in every arm'?

And even if I believe the virus is real, and the virus was made in a lab, why should I believe it was made in a Chinese lab? Because Globohomo Empire's mouthpieces claim that to be the case? I thought they'd found traces of 'covid 19' in sewage samples from Barcelona taken on March 12, 2019.

What am I to believe? The virus leaked from China much earlier than thought? Or that the tests for the purported virus are a joke and throw up false positives?

And why is Globohomo Empire so desperate to get a needle in every arm for a disease with a purportedly comically low infection fatality rate, according to official estimates by the CDC?

Sheet ain't adding up. Either the virus is real but only a delivery vector for something much, much worse (prion disease?), which takes much longer to kill you, or this is just another propaganda fallback position, in their continued push to get people to take the mystery serum injections.

The first possibility requires that Globohomo Empire actually care about its subjects' health and that of the subjects of its vassal and supplicant states. Especially the white female subjects, which it would love to see breed with anyone but white male subjects, if they have to breed at all. It would also require that the Chinese be exceptionally talented and competent at making bioweapons while being rather incompetent at keeping them safely contained inside bioweapons labs rather than accidentally releasing them in their own country, otherwise also requiring that they don't care about blowback to their own population, even going so far as intentionally releasing it in their most populated metropolis (why? for plausible deniability). Real tough sell there.

However, the explanatory hypothesis that this is just another propaganda defensive fallback position in the desperate push to sell the not-vaccines to the 'Amaleks'... well, that kind of sells itself. No real effort required, no suspension of disbelief required, no forcing one's self to believe Globohomo Empire talking points.

Blogger SacrificialLamb June 07, 2021 11:33 PM  

@17. Zander Stander

Considering that the virus has not been isolated, how can they prove that this sequence, probably obtained through PCR, comes from covid-19?


@31. CharlieJune 07, 2021 6:01 PM
https://www.bitchute.com/video/euFyRNvL2jft/
Dr. Tom Cowan along with David Icke and Jon Rappoport maintain that there is no virus. That the gain of function has to with the not-vaccines. They are the real bio-weapon. The virus has always been the excuse for them.


I don't believe the virus exists at all. And I don't just mean that the so-called "pandemic" is fake. I'm saying that nobody has reliably forensically demonstrated that the virus for COVID-19 exists. The "not-vaccine" is the real bio-weapon.

This Coronahoax wankery has been going since 2019, and we have NEVER heard of anyone fully isolating the virus for COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) in a lab. Never. Not once. And no, bits and pieces of RNA do not count.

If the virus somehow does exist (unlikely), then it's an artificially engineered wet fart that is little danger to anyone under the age of 70.

Anyway, what we see in the article above just demonstrates that the various Deep State factions (Chinese, Jewish, Luciferian, etc.) are now fighting with each other for narrative control. This is also why we've been hearing so many people on social media denigrating Israel as an apartheid state, whereas we would NEVER hear anything like that before now. Now that Trump is out, the various Deep State factions are fighting each other (since they don't dare trust each other any more), and nobody has real control. My gut feeling tells me that the Deep State factions will be fighting each other like this for YEARS, until the collapse comes.

Blogger PurpleMelbourne June 08, 2021 12:10 AM  

...transported to China via CANADIANS...

That's the PLA shill talking point.

Blogger pyrrhus June 08, 2021 12:42 AM  

Chinese scientist had filed patent on vaccine early in 2020, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9658235/Chinese-scientist-filed-patent-COVID-vaccine-virus-declared-global-pandemic.html...presumed dead mysteriously..

Blogger map June 08, 2021 12:42 AM  

http://mileswmathis.com/crazy.pdf

This is a great article, in particular the following section. It addresses partly the way liberals react to things like hypocrisy:

Liberalism has been heavily targeted since the 1820s, and I have proved that in a long series of papers.

This is because liberalism is the greatest foe of greedy capitalists. Liberals wish to equalize opportunity and maximize fairness, and nothing would cut into profits more than that. So it isn't hard to understand. It also isn't hard to prove, since the capitalists admit it and have been admitting it all along. My previous research wasn't hard. Operations Chaos and Cointelpro are partially declassified,
and in them it is admitted that liberals, hippies, antiwar protestors, and many other similar groups were targeted because they threatened the war machine, the banking machine, and all the other government
conjobs. Since WWII, the largest and fastest growing means of attacking liberalism has been through manufactured events. Manufactured events create destabilization and confusion, which of course lead to mental illness. I have called it a mindstir. One year we are told one thing and the next year we are told the opposite. One year a word means X and the next year it means not-X. One year eggs are
healthy, the next year they are unhealthy. One year Bill Cosby is a hero, the next year he is sexual predator. One decade the Earth is going to freeze from global cooling, the next it is going to drown
from global warming. One decade the Democratic party is the party of the common man, the next the Republican party is. One decade taxing the rich is good, the next it is bad. The EU is good; no it is bad. Israel is good; no, it is bad. Women's sports are sacrosanct; no, they should be open to trannies.

You will say we are all exposed equally to this rocking, but that isn't really true. Progressives, by definition, are more open to new information. They feel the need to be au courant and up-to-date. That is what progressive means. So they are more likely to follow the news and believe it. Those who call themselves conservatives in the US usually mean by that that they have accepted traditional values about family, sex, law and order, etc., so they are less likely to be moved by new trends, positive or not. They simply aren't very interested in anything new, especially as it pertains to these core values. You can argue that this is either good or bad, but in the present case it does tend to shield them from these psychological projects to some extent. While liberals want to give everything new a fair shake, conservatives may assume everything new is corrupted. What this means is that liberals, like women, are more open to psyops. They may be less guarded, more emotional, and more social. This makes them easier for Intelligence to target.

Miles does a good summary of this. The problem is that Miles believes liberals can be allies once this is broken. He does not take into account the "demoralization effects" covered by Yuri Bezmenov (or, maybe he does and I just haven't read that yet.) Even if presented with the truth, a demoralized liberal is not going to see it. With leavening "novelty" through a traditional understanding to Truth, Beauty and Goodness, liberals will be continually buffeted by a psyop.

Blogger Jack Amok June 08, 2021 1:12 AM  

You know, I don't think so....I think he's not exactly public health at all but a bioweapons guy they sometimes roll out to kill selective parts of populations. Gays, boomers, whatever, he's fairly good at culling.

Neither AIDS nor COVID culled much of anything. Other than trust in public health institutions. Unless Fauci's job was to destroy our faith in science and medicine, he's been an abject failure.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 1:22 AM  

"I know the 'it has never been isolated' is a staple tinfoil hat claim ever since HIV"

I've seen one of these "tinfoil hat"ters, a biologist, debate another biologist specializing in virology on this point, and my takeaway was that the virologist was completely unable to rebut the statement "NO virus has EVER been isolated". It was a revealing moment.

A bit of further research reveals that viruses can indeed not be isolated by definition, because they do not fit the normal criteria to be recognized as a living thing. TL;DR: We can't define energy well, let alone life, and if we cannot define life, good luck defining health and discriminating between types of symbioses. Castles in the sky.

I propose that anything that propagates, maintaining kind to a sufficient degree through propagations, be categorized as alive. Interestingly, this allows for the return to recognition of certain propagative behavioral patterns such as homosexuality, and even recognition of the propagation of entirely immaterial forms -- welcome back to public consciousness, spirits.

The determination of the degree of kind-fidelity necessary for the classification of living things would then be quite interesting, a new frontier where an old catalogue ought to be. I suspect that no distinct degree of fidelity could in honesty be chosen, and that a continuum of fidelity --from the transience of vaporous smoke rings and ripples in a pond, to humans and pure biologics, to the fidelity of superhuman beings known as gods, and finally to the utter fidelity of God Himself-- would have to be eventually settled on.

Diseases could then be better categorized, along with addictions and sins, as ouroboric-natured faithless entities of diminishment unto perishment.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 1:32 AM  

"What am I to believe? The virus leaked from China much earlier than thought? Or that the tests for the purported virus are a joke and throw up false positives?"

Why burn bridges? Embrace the awesome power of both/and, and throw "the virus makers are incompetent and couldn't do better", "it's not actually possible for humans to do much more in the area of microbiological warfare", and "this is just one part of an already complete and extremely lethal biowarfare package" in as possible addenda for good measure.

Oh, and remember, the truth is probably all of the above at once, to varying degrees, depending only upon perspective.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 1:47 AM  

"I don't believe the virus exists at all. And I don't just mean that the so-called "pandemic" is fake. I'm saying that nobody has reliably forensically demonstrated that the virus for COVID-19 exists. The "not-vaccine" is the real bio-weapon."

It's even richer than that.

What is one of the primary health-affective mechanisms of the virus? The spike protein key. I can't name exact numbers, but we know that a lot of the damage is accomplished just by that.

What is the primary point of the "definitely-real-vaccine"s? To cause the host body to produce spike proteins just like the virus itself.

The kicker? If the spike protein turns out to be THE primary damaging mechanism, the disease and the definitely-real-vaccines are teleologically identical. You hear that? The "disease" and the "cure" are possibly the same thing for all intents and purposes. The separation would be no more than the name of the rose.

If this is the case, the natural next question to ask is yours, "is there really a disease in the first place?" The definitely-real-vaccines would be the only real virus.

Blogger Jack Amok June 08, 2021 2:06 AM  

Sounds like a theory proposed by a mis-director. That's a freight line, it's not fully operational, and even if it were it takes 15-16 days to get from Wuhan to Iran on it.

Don't be intentionally obtuse. The virus travelled on an airplane with workers and execs going back and forth between Iran and China. Or Italy and China. It spread first in areas with lots of Chinese living in them because they travelled back and forth. The Seattle outbreak was slightly different - the chinaman coming back from his vacation travelled through SeaTac airport and took an Uber home. Somewhere along that track, he infected a worker at a local old-folks home and that's where the first concentration was in the US.

Idiots conducting dangerous Gain-Of-Function research at a Chinese lab with a safety track record that was poor even by Chinese standards does a perfectly good job of explaining how it got loose and spread. It also means the people funding, conducting, and encouraging research there should be charged with reckless mass-homicide.

Blogger Noah B. June 08, 2021 2:58 AM  

CGG-CGG is nucleotide code for "Kilroy was here."

Blogger Inquisitor Benedictus June 08, 2021 3:35 AM  

Sputnik News Interviews EMJ: Vaccines Viruses and Fauci
https://culturewars.com/podcasts/bitchute-embed-template-ngks3-k7lek-t295n

FFWN: “YouTube Will Annihilate My Channel If I Even Mention This” (with E. Michael Jones)
https://culturewars.com/podcasts/bitchute-embed-template-ngks3-k7lek-rb269

Blogger NedFlinders June 08, 2021 4:31 AM  

6. Some GuyJune 07, 2021 4:23 PM
The real question is if they are trying to push us into war with China. We won't win.
---
Win?
You're not meant to.
Satan owns both sides via his highest ranked servants.
They will whip the US into anger against China and attack them.
Then they will throw the game and let China defeat the US handily.
And the US will be written into history the same way Nazi Germany is now.
The cardboard cutout villain upon whose corpse the grand new banker empire is built.

Blogger Jpc June 08, 2021 5:19 AM  

By God.
They are trying their utmost though to suppress everything but the vaccine narrative.
Sickening!

Blogger weka June 08, 2021 5:25 AM  

@Hammerli 280.

No. Give him to Kratman.

Blogger Unknown June 08, 2021 6:15 AM  

Speaking of media conspiracies, in London Ont there was the hate crime of the century. The Leaders of Canada were fired up, our state governor, our media was getting spun up. Family Of Muslims Killed By A Pickup In Obvious White Hate Crime!

Then all of the sudden they arrested the doer, and no pics, no social media leaks, no comments on searches of his home, and the outrage started to get tamped down immediately. His name came out, though. Nathaniel Veltman.

Blogger Unknown June 08, 2021 6:36 AM  

Newsweek, the Dailymail, next up is CNN I guess. Now you know that the "Wuhan lab creation" narrative is the ruse, right? Their not breaking any silence, they are spinning for the rubes.
Zoonotic coronavirus has been promoted since at least 1997 when Donald Burke from Fort Detrick hyped it at the American Society for Microbiology. Five years later there was SARS and the beginning of a concerted propaganda campaign by John Hopkins, WHO, and others. They said it came from bats in Yunan. They've been working on this for at least 20 years.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 08, 2021 7:06 AM  

The short answer why this is coming out now: the internet.

The Internet only makes it possible, it doesn't make it happen.

Video clips of Joe Biden groping little kids at Senate swearing-in ceremonies have been available on the Internet for years, but they aren't "out" because the MSM pretends they don't exist. No one I know has seen them or even heard of them unless I put them in his face personally. The Internet makes it possible for you to go find them for yourself, and to send them to your friends privately, but it doesn't make it possible for you to get them "out" to the American people. Lots of people tried during the election, but Big Tech and the MSM were able to maintain an information wall.

I read this morning that Condaleeza Rice is talking about the lab origin now. There's a faction of the cabal that wants war with China, or at least the threat of it. If this is coming "out" now (and I'm still waiting to see it in "reputable" MSM outlets), after a year of the same people treating the lab origin like Pizzagate or moon landing hoax theories, that's why. It's not that they can't keep "debunking" and suppressing it, because they could. It's that they think it'll benefit them somehow.

Blogger xevious2030 June 08, 2021 7:40 AM  

“as the official narrative of the subsequent”

The Prometheans and the Chinese had thought to play the part of Spring Healed Jim, but they forget there is another party, and they suck compared to that party. The Prometheans are starting to recognize this, and are looking pretty hard at the swine. The Chinese would be better off to do the same. Neither are the genuine article, and neither will ever be. Stupid of them to try.

Blogger Avalanche June 08, 2021 7:43 AM  

@31 "That the gain of function has to with the not-vaccines. They are the real bio-weapon."

The 'spikes' were tested, in vitro (in 'glass') against 50 different types of human cell lines (thus: kidney cells, heart cells, muscle cells, spleen cells, etc. etc.). The spikes ALONE -- with no "payload" -- damaged 28 out of the 50 normal human cells! The SPIKES are the poison! And the not-vaxx teaches your body to create them!

Also, Dr. Pierre Kory, my hero, mentioned in this past week's FLCCC Alliance update, that ivermectin IS recommended to be taken along with the not-vax. They are working on trials and studies ... to counteract the not-vax problems... ; and once they get the long-haulers protocol released (next week, they think), they will finalize the 'not-vax support.

He and some of folks he's presenting with DO support the not-vax, which bothers me, they haven't said much definitive yet. He still supports masking and distance IN crowds, like on public transit; but NOT NOT NOT out in the outdoors without crowds!

Blogger Avalanche June 08, 2021 7:45 AM  

@32 "And there's little doubt in my mind that the (faulty) thinking ran along the lines of 'Where would you prefer risky virus experimentation was being conducted: in your backyard or China's?'"

You left out part: "Since ALL level 4 labs run by either/every country -- and mostly with the SAME scientists shared back and forth between/among them -- where, by which group, would you prefer risky virus experimentation be conducted?"

Blogger Avalanche June 08, 2021 8:08 AM  

@57 "As a bioweapon it does not look that effective since it mostly kills old people.
However, maybe it was just a trial run!"

You're missing what may be the TRUE 'intended population'! Yeah, they murdered a HUGE group of oldsters... but by careful manipulation, they ALSO got millions and millions, if their numbers aren't also lies, to take a never-before-used, mostly under-tested, DEFINITELY dangerous genetic modifier. That gene manipulation has some immediately horrendous effects on a SMALL group out of the millions -- the "acknowledged" death toll of the vax is now:

"Latest VAERS Data Show: 5,165 Deaths Reported Following COVID Vaccines
VAERS data released today showed 294,801 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 5,165 deaths and 25,359 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and May 28, 2021."

AND 'we' have absolutely NO idea what the long-term effects of this poison will be. The last few "SARS vax" trial results in the death of nearly 100% of the (couple different!) test animals when exposed to a "wild" SARS virus. They've been TRYING for 20 years to make it work!

So, "we" have immediate deadly and injurious results in a small-ish 'host' -- AND the promise of more-bigger-better to come!

What's NOT to love?!?

Blogger Didas Kalos June 08, 2021 8:56 AM  

@94 Damelion. Have you never read in 2 Samuel 15 and 16 what God did to the counsel of the wise counsellor Ahithophel and how God made his counsel foolishness?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 08, 2021 9:05 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:A bit of further research reveals that viruses can indeed not be isolated by definition, because they do not fit the normal criteria to be recognized as a living thing.
Azure, sodium chloride can be isolated, and is not alive.

A virus is a strand of RNA or DNA, inside some sort of outer shell. Why could that not be isolated?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 08, 2021 9:10 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:What is the primary point of the "definitely-real-vaccine"s? To cause the host body to produce spike proteins just like the virus itself.
The clotting is what makes the disease serious, but most of us never get the clotting, so this is just another cold for most of us.

So far we don't know what makes some unfortunate few get clots. It could be that the virus and vaccine makers do know, and have a plan to spread that clotting factor more widely. Maybe in the booster shots for the not-vaxes, or maybe in GMO foods, or pick another delivery method.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 08, 2021 9:15 AM  

Why do they want us thinking about this now? What are they distracting us from noticing, and why this distraction in particular?

Pushing for war with China might answer the first and third questions. Team Biden holding out for another billion in bribes might answer it, too.

What about that second question? What else should we notice?

Blogger Unknown June 08, 2021 9:48 AM  

"The determination of the degree of kind-fidelity necessary for the classification of living things would then be quite interesting, a new frontier where an old catalogue ought to be."

What was old is new.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 9:52 AM  

"Azure, sodium chloride can be isolated, and is not alive."

Talking about the definition of pathogen isolation, not material isolation.

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 08, 2021 10:07 AM  

@102. Ominous Cowherd,
I wouldn't put all my stock into figuring out exactly an agenda just by reading the media tea leaves. I think of this as fallback positions that they retreat to after their info front lines are bypassed. Piles of BS this high always become (eventually) admitted to in limited hang-outs. The real study is in how long each information stage lasts - this tells the people with the whiteboards how intelligent this big dumb animal really is compared to the last BS story. Beyond the "China China China" narrative is of course the Center for Disease Control and the international cooperative nature of the scientism caste. We probably won't get _that_ far...

Blogger Unknown June 08, 2021 10:11 AM  

"What else should we notice?"

Opportunity. To become relevant. And to wrest unallotted influence away from the wicked.

The second question presumes distraction. Incorrect subcategory, go back up one level. Their narrative has increasingly diverged from reality, which really has not been working well for them. They've been trying to force bend an old narrative not of their making, thereby changing conditions, and rendering another narrative correlative to reality. To remain relevant requires following the new narrative not of their making.

Free will exists in the little things, but not the big picture story consequences. The raising of the Staff and the Amalekites. That was a lesson, along with the blood over the lintel.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 10:26 AM  

"A virus is a strand of RNA or DNA, inside some sort of outer shell. Why could that not be isolated?"

I could write a page, but in short, the rules for pathogenicity require an active agent to be considered isolated. Viruses are not active when isolated from hosts. On top of being almost astronomically non-voluminous even compared to bacteria, near the same MM as the media you might try to spin them out of, invisible under any microscope other than electron, and so on.

Next, we don't have an updated version of Koch's Postulates formulated yet. There are no hard criteria, so it's a soft-science zone.

We do automated acid sequencing because the alternative is orders of magnitude worse than the proverbial needle/haystack.

Soft science, complex and finicky tools, literally invisible, matches most of what you'd expect of someone trying to make up a molecular-bogeyman to scare the children straight. Virus deniers have a lot of things going in their favoor.

"The clotting is what makes the disease serious"

And we know that the spike proteins cause clotting.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 10:29 AM  

"What are they distracting us from noticing"

That the same section of the population that would normally volunteer for the military is moving from itching to aching to go elite-hunting right now? We've always been at war with Eastasia, comrade.

Blogger Silex June 08, 2021 11:14 AM  

"With unprecedented speed, scientific research has solved the structure of SARS-CoV-2 and imaged its binding with the ACE2 receptor. In SARS-CoV-2 infection, the viral S (spike) protein receptor-binding domain binds to ACE2 to enter the host cell. ACE2 expression in the lungs is relatively low, but it is present in type II pneumocytes—a cell type also endowed with TMPRSS2 (transmembrane protease serine 2). This protease is critical for priming the SARS-CoV-2 S protein to complex with ACE2 and enter the cells."

Why do you supposed they figured all of this out with "unprecented speed"? Why do they say it was unprecedented when they said the same thing about isolating and mapping SARS1?:
per Wikipedia: " Donald Low of Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto described the discovery as having been made with "unprecedented speed.""
SARS1 started in November 2002 in Guangdong, China, it was identified as the cause of SARS in March 2003 and it was mapped in April 2003. Sound familiar?

Blogger Crew June 08, 2021 11:27 AM  

This paper article is about a paper showing the hypercoagulation effects of the Spike protein in SARS-CoV-2:

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210310/SARS-CoV-2-spike-S1-subunit-induces-hypercoagulability.aspx

The conclusion is:

Thus, the free S1 subunit has harmful effects on the host even without direct infection of the cells themselves. This strengthens the case for targeting the spike protein via antibodies and vaccines.

No. It tells us that the not-Vaccine should not use mRNA for the Spike protein!

I suspect the next step in improving the bioweapon is to increase the hypercoagulation effects of the Spike protein.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 08, 2021 1:21 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:

Don't be intentionally obtuse. The virus travelled on an airplane with workers and execs going back and forth between Iran and China. Or Italy and China


No, Jack. Your point is that the world is more interconnected than ever, etc. Well, no kidding. That is the obvious, it should not blunt inquiry. Looking into how it spread, and especially whom it showered with large benefits, you find that this came along as a straight flush for all the wrong people. These are people whom we know are evil. It is not obtuse to question how richly coincidental all of this is. We have circumstantial evidence, with no solid proof, that this thing was engineered, and likely targeted and guided.

Appears in smack in the middle of the Han Chinese heartland.
Jumps almost immediately to the Iranian parliament.
Five new haplotypes pop up the USA, derailing the nearly assured re-election of Trump
All the wrong people make tons of money
More freedoms worldwide are subsumed under governmental controls.
Now everybody clamors for a new 'vaccine' that just happened along miraculously, and is indemnified, with all sorts of dubious implications.
All of it goes down in the context of elites babbling on about a "Great Reset", a fundamental change in the governing paradigms of the entire world.

COVID is indeed a straight flush, for all the wrong people. How bloody convenient and damned lucky, no?

Blogger eclecticme June 08, 2021 2:03 PM  


https://pjmedia.com/columns/paula-bolyard/2021/06/04/report-high-ranking-chinese-defector-working-with-dia-has-direct-knowledge-of-chinas-bioweapons-program-and-its-very-bad-n1452251
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Why was the defector so important that he had to be kept under wraps?

Housley says it’s because the defector has information on the origins of the Wuhan virus: “China is trying to produce variants that suggest it came from bats to cover up that coronavirus originally came from a lab.” He later clarified: “US intelligence has a Chinese defector with Wuhan info. AND China is trying to produce variants that suggest it came from bats to cover up that coronavirus originally came from a lab.”

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 08, 2021 2:12 PM  

"Free will exists in the little things, but not the big picture story consequences."

Free will is occasional momentary choices, but it lays in habits that do the vast majority of the acting for us autonomously. Big picture story is like statistics. If you take small numbers or individuals you will get outliers and oddballs fairly often, but the larger the sample size the more anything, including large groups of people, behave like a rock with diminishing ability to surprise, if you know what to look for. Knowing what to look for is a high barrier to entry though.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 08, 2021 2:29 PM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:Talking about the definition of pathogen isolation, not material isolation.
Azure, I was thinking about a purified, crystallized sample, as mentioned here.

It's been done with the tobacco mosaic virus and thousands of other viruses, so why not this one?

Blogger stevo June 08, 2021 3:22 PM  

I have noticed that when stories like this happen, the first things we hear (by we I mean those who pay attention to forbidden news sources) usually ends up being true. In this case I think they are trying to do damage control and giving us China as the bad guy.

Blogger Jack Amok June 08, 2021 6:48 PM  

Jumps almost immediately to the Iranian parliament.

Is it that hard to think about a Chinese government bagman making a quick trip to visit family (or a favorite mistress) in Wuhan before hopping a flight to Tehran to meet f2f with corrupt Iranian politicians waiting for their next bribe installment payment?

Don't forget the outbreak in Italy around the same time - in an area with a bunch of Chinese nationals working in the textile industry. Theories have to explain all the data, not just some of it.

Blogger xevious2030 June 08, 2021 7:49 PM  

“Big picture story is like statistics”

Sorry, used wrong ID. The big picture references weren’t statistical, provided the contrast.

Blogger Valar Addemmis June 09, 2021 12:13 AM  

Jack Amok wrote:Theories have to explain all the data, not just some of it.

Theories have to explain all the *relevant* data. The difficulty is determining what is relevant and what is a red herring, of course.

Iran could have easily been a target of biowarfare while Italy was natural spread from a previous target. Heck, if you're assuming targeting Italy could have easily been a target because of their importance to Chinese industry.

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds", no?

FTR, I don't buy this theory, and instead figure that the biowarfare lab with crappy sanitation practices did what labs with crappy sanitation practices do. But I won't claim that malicious spread isn't plausible with the known and suspected facts.

Blogger Ozymandius June 09, 2021 2:27 AM  

If the weapon was only intended to disrupt the global economy, inject fear and control over the masses, and create a scenario where China could observe how the world reacts to better prepare for future planned pandemics, it was extremely effective.

Blogger Catchthefox June 09, 2021 5:44 AM  

completely delusional. liberals and "capitalists" are one and the same.

Blogger Jack Amok June 09, 2021 12:49 PM  

But I won't claim that malicious spread isn't plausible with the known and suspected facts.

I'm not saying it isn't plausible either. I'm saying there are better explanations that are more consistent with what we've observed. Ken was insisting that Iranian government officials getting COVID made it a deliberate attack.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey June 09, 2021 8:44 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:Ken was insisting that Iranian government officials getting COVID made it a deliberate attack.

This came up in the context of Ron Unz's bioweapon attack thesis, from which the Iranian angle is one of the most compelling items. Anybody who is interested can see here:

https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-george-orwells-virus-lab-leak/

There are many more articles in this vein on the site; if you're not familiar with his arguments I do recommend that you take a look.

Blogger Red Cadger June 10, 2021 12:18 AM  

This "lab leak" chapter of the narrative is presumably coming from the sequence they're basing the PCR tests from. It's bullshit. They fabricated the sequence on a computer, it doesn't exist in any actual humans, and never has.
https://cormandrostenreview.com/report/

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 10, 2021 3:25 PM  

"Azure, I was thinking about a purified, crystallized sample, as mentioned here.

It's been done with the tobacco mosaic virus and thousands of other viruses, so why not this one?"


Crystallized, not purified, and crystallized in this case doesn't mean quite what you might think it does:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/231608

Reading between the lines is pretty easy on this one: "Bankster scientist finds what his group expected to find, and is hailed in highly exaggerated form as a hero everywhere, and receives a Nobel prize even though he didn't exactly do what he claimed."

Not purified and therefore not isolated by any definition, let alone the pure culture definition per:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Koch%27s_postulates

Of which you will note a modernized version has not been set.

When textbooks for example claim that a virus has been isolated:

https://bio.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Microbiology/Microbiology_(OpenStax)/06%3A_Acellular_Pathogens/6.03%3A_Isolation_Culture_and_Identification_of_Viruses

It has not been by any normal definition. Free host cell proteins and nucleic acid strands also are collected through filters and centrifuges, are an inevitable result of viral replication due to it causing host cell rupture, and are not separable from the virus.

Next you must remember that what is collected and studied as the virus not-a-"crystal" is separated parts of the viruses themselves, protein segments of viral sheaths and nucleic acid chains: The same things that come from the ruptured host cells.

This is why people say that viruses have not been isolated, because they haven't been under any definition other than that purpose-made for viruses and prions, and that's before you get into conspiracy theory territory.

Blogger Dave June 11, 2021 11:28 AM  

Very early in the scamdemic Indian scientists made the same or similar declaration and were roundly ridiculed in the media. I have to find that story I saved it somewhere.

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