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Friday, June 04, 2021

Stalin's War and the Soviet-Nazi break

 An interview with the author of the highly recommended Stalin's War:

This is what I think one of the key discoveries that I made, although a few other historians have again tried to kind of guess at this they haven't actually seen most of the files. The final break between Hitler and Stalin prior to what we now call Operation Barbarossa occurred over Balkan questions.  

There was this summit that has long been known about in Berlin, in November 1940. This is when Molotov went to meet with Hitler and Ribbentrop, and he also met Rudolf Hess, and Himmler, and all the other leading Nazis. It turned out that in fact the Germans thought the meetings had gone relatively well. They hadn't agreed on everything, but they thought the meetings had been friendly.

We now know from Molotov's own real-time telegraphic communications from Stalin that he and Stalin had in fact decided to break with Hitler even before the Germans broke with them. Stalin laid down what was in effect an ultimatum. Hitler had invited the Soviet Union to join the Tripartite Pact - they had restyled the old anti-Comintern pact with Italy, Germany, and Japan - so it's now going to be restyled and the Soviets are invited to join.

Stalin insisted as a price of joining the Tripartite Pact that the Germans withdraw all of their troops from Finland and Romania, including military advisers, that Stalin be allowed to invade Bulgaria and to station troops at the Bosporus and the Dardanelles - that is to say the Turkish Straits. He was afraid of the British, he still saw the British as the enemy.

That's one of the other really fascinating things that you see, if you actually read the real correspondence, is that Stalin before Barbarossa, and even to some extent after it and towards the end of the war, continued to view the Anglo-Saxons, as he called them, as his enemy. As he told Matsuoka, Japan's foreign minister in April 1941 and also in their first meeting in March, he'd never viewed the Anglo-Saxons as his friends and he did not intend to befriend them now.

Now strangely enough, they had been wary of Stalin too, but then when Hitler does make this decision to invade, in part because of this break over the Balkans, in part because of Hitler's own ideolog,  racial obsessions about Lebensraum and cleansing room for the German settlers in the east, it's sort of like this act of almost diplomatic magic. There's kind of a public relations miracle. To give you an idea of what I mean, even the Roosevelt administration, which had been relatively friendly vis-a-vis the Soviet Union, in the days before Barbarossa they had been about to expel Soviet spies, including aviation spies and experts who would actually burrow deeply into the U.S. aviation sector and were scheduled for deportation, relations were about to go into a deep freeze, suddenly - poof - everything vanishes!

Stalin is a hero, his peoples, they are heroes. Secretly at first, later, a fter November 1941 openly, Roosevelt opens the spigot of Lend-Lease aid to the Soviet Union and lavishes vast amounts of war materiel, industrial inputs, foodstuffs, boots, uniforms, you name it, it's all given effectively for free to the Soviet Union.

I very much recommend reading this book. The author apparently isn't equipped to draw some of the obvious conclusions from his own observations and he doesn't usually ask the obvious follow-on questions - for example, inquiring as to precisely which individuals in the USA were responsible for making that public relations miracle happen and how they did it - but that doesn't lessen the importance of those well-documented observations in the slightest. 

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Blogger Unknown June 04, 2021 8:21 AM  

I had read many years ago a main cause of FDR having to change vice presidents was that so many US servicemen had seen the Soviet Union system in person, between the lend lease bases at the end of the Persian Corridor, and the shuttle bombing base, that it stacked up with the lost auto workers from the 1920s and turned the US public against the democrats' treasured ally.

Because of that I read The Forsaken when that came out, about the US autoworkers who went to the Soviet Union for jobs when the Depression hit, and when Stalin decided to enslave them FDR's ambassador pretended it wasn't happening, even over protests by the embassy staff. To the extent he would claim the nightly firing squads were merely fireworks of joy.

Blogger Silent Draco June 04, 2021 8:29 AM  

Invade Bulgaria, by first making Romania and its oil a client and protectorate. Give the Black Sea Fleet access to the Med by essentially seizing both Straits - and Constantinople while we're there. How about the Black Gate, too?

Blogger Andrew Jackson June 04, 2021 8:35 AM  

All true!

Blogger MalcolmReynolds June 04, 2021 8:40 AM  

of Bulgaria! Hitler would have been insane to allow this. The Soviet dagger would have been pointed right at Germany’s heart - Romanian oil.

Wasn’t 9th Army (Soviet “super” invasion army) already on the Romanian border?

Blogger Curtis Spicoli June 04, 2021 8:53 AM  

I wonder if they will offer a new scenario in Hearts of Iron IV to play out a scenario where the Germans don’t invade Russia with the agreements suggested by the Soviets.

Blogger Blunt Force June 04, 2021 8:59 AM  

Louis Howe was the chief miracle worker behind Roosevelt's New Americanism which saved the world from German hyper-aggression and paved the way for social justice to become the powerful government initiative it is today.

"Howe first met Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1911 while covering the latter's bold senatorial fight against Tammany Hall, the seat of corrupt party politics in New York. Roosevelt's persistence and eventual victory garnered Howe's admiration. Howe said of their initial meeting, "I was so impressed with Franklin Roosevelt... his seriousness, his earnestness, his firm dedication to his cause, that from that moment we became friends -- and almost at that very first meeting I made up my mind that he was Presidential timber and that nothing but an accident could keep him from becoming President of the United States." Howe realized how his experience and maturity could complement Roosevelt's enthusiasm and charisma to effect a powerful political team -- he was, as he put it, providing the "toe weights," the grounding for Roosevelt's career. When Roosevelt became assistant secretary to the navy, a privileged gentleman's position, Howe steered him away from the fashionable places of the elite and instead directed him to the Navy Yards to monitor labor conditions personally. This earned Roosevelt the respect and cooperation of labor leaders as well as valuable insights into the minds and characters of his future constituents.

Howe directed Eleanor in a similar manner. It was he who urged that she hold regular press conferences for women while in the White House (an unprecedented activity for a first lady), coached her on political speeches, and in one exceptional instance, sent her to walk and converse among the disgruntled veterans of the Second Bonus Army in 1933. Eleanor's efforts in this instance helped to defuse a volatile situation and won significant support for the president and his administration. At first disturbed by Howe's appearance and bad habits, Eleanor gradually came to see his devotion to her husband. Howe and Eleanor enjoyed a friendship and she credits him with greatly contributing to her "political education."

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/eleanor-howe/

Curtis B Dall, the son-in-law of FDR, in his book Franklin Delano Roosevelt FDR My Exploited Father In Law exposed Louis Howe as the pro-Soviet puppet master he really was.
https://archive.org/details/DallCurtisB.FranklinDelanoRooseveltFDRMyExploitedFatherInLaw1970

Also, anyone interested in the mind blowing magnitude of material and military wealth stolen from the American people facilitated by Roosevelt and the Joint Chiefs should read lending lease officer Major George Jordan's book From Major Jordans Diaries, but a word of caution first. As you attempt to digest the shear volume of the communist control of the US government, including the military during WWII you may develop a gastric ulcer.
https://archive.org/details/FromMajorJordansDiaries1952Signed?q=from+major+jordan%27s+diaries





Blogger IamDevo June 04, 2021 9:13 AM  

Over and over again we confirm the truth of Patton's observations about the Soviet Union. There is no wonder that the Soviet spies/sympathizers/agents provocateur in the Roosevelt administration (which still held sway over Truman) had him killed. We should apply the wisdom of hindsight to all our foreign affairs; avoid foreign entanglements as the Founders uniformly warned. After all, what good, ultimately, has the spillage of American blood and expenditure of American treasure since 1913 done for this nation? Have the posterity of those who gave their all benefited in any significant way? Or do the American nomenclatura intend to give away what remains of our national seed corn to global interests in order to more firmly establish their supremacy over the great unwashed? The question answers itself.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville June 04, 2021 9:15 AM  

Just a few chapters in, but already the Jew SecState Morganthau is already playing footsies with the Soviets.

Blogger J Van Stry June 04, 2021 10:21 AM  

FDR was a commie. Not surprised by this at all.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 04, 2021 10:29 AM  

The Germans tried to save us.

Blogger Eugenius BEar June 04, 2021 10:32 AM  

@6.

This also has me wondering if the 22nd amendment to the US constitution was part of the end game. Just think of the dynamic created by the 22nd amendment and how it may have been, retrospectively, critical in the destabilization of the executive branch of government, ultimately leading to the formation and solidification of "deep state" power. The 22nd amendment all but ensured that future presidents and their top level cabinet appointees enter as lame ducks. I posit the executive branch doesn't function as intended without the threat of presidential tenure being unlimited.

I would love to hear Vox's take on the impact of the 22nd amendment relative to the formation and strengthening of the deep state.

Blogger Bartolo June 04, 2021 10:34 AM  

I read McMeekin's The Russian Revolution and I remember he dropped some vague facts/hints about a certain (((subject))), but then he refused to dwell on that matter, moved on and never brought it up again.

Blogger crash June 04, 2021 10:39 AM  

I am reading it now. It sure makes me want to know more about Chiang Kai-Shek. Did the Americans put the communists in control of China by pulling support for him? Sure looks that way.

Blogger Nate73 June 04, 2021 10:41 AM  

I believe Pat Buchanana talked about this in his book "Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War", but if it wasn't for US aid to Stalin then the germans would have never lost on the eastern front.

Blogger Azimus June 04, 2021 11:06 AM  

Stalin probably hates the English because when the English killed Rasputin, whatever evil thing was posessing him jumped into Stalin...

Blogger Blackswan June 04, 2021 11:13 AM  

Yes. At least 1000 tanks. Hitler has 3350 all.

Blogger Blackswan June 04, 2021 11:17 AM  

And Anthony Sutton "National Suicide"

Blogger Peter B June 04, 2021 11:23 AM  

Re: #6 "Louis Howe was the chief miracle worker behind Roosevelt's New Americanism which saved the world from German hyper-aggression and paved the way for social justice to become the powerful government initiative it is today."

Infogalactic: "Howe was sickly and fragile as a child, suffered from asthma, and was generally kept home by his parents; he would never grow to more than five feet tall. Fearing to expose Howe to public school, his parents instead enrolled him in an all-girls seminary."

https://infogalactic.com/info/Louis_Howe

Blogger exfarmkid June 04, 2021 12:15 PM  

At the end of his long life, Herbert Hoover wrote a most fascinating history of the second world war. Not kind to FDR and cabinet as you can imagine, but he was a front-row spectator to many things. His tome is heavily footnoted from beginning to end, including personal correspondence.

Blogger Blunt Force June 04, 2021 12:19 PM  

@ #18
I did not know he was related to Ben Shapiro.

Blogger I don't think I like Conrad June 04, 2021 12:23 PM  

If I may also recommend:

Besides with Stalin's War there is Hitler's War by David Irving, Churchill's War by David Irving, and Germany's War by John Wear.

David Irving has given many lectures on his life and work. Here for example, is one on Churchill's War.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vF69B4dlrQpy/

Blogger Scofflaw June 04, 2021 12:37 PM  

@6 I'm ha;f way thru Jordan's diaries. It's Jaw-Dropping stuff. Gonna read the book on that little commie Gremlin Howe next.

Blogger Pedro the Cat June 04, 2021 12:44 PM  

I recall reading an article that stated the U.S. gave the USSR 650,000 of just ONE type of vehicle, the Deuce and a half, I believe. The soviets would have had to use a LOT of horses to replace those!

Blogger Charles Martel June 04, 2021 12:59 PM  

Geeee, I wonder if those were the same people who later bankrolled chairman Mao while they got the US State Department to withdraw its support for the nationalists... Same people who have been a cancer on humanity for the past 2000 years and are in dire need of being excised from the gene pool...

Blogger Unknown June 04, 2021 12:59 PM  

crash wrote:I am reading it now. It sure makes me want to know more about Chiang Kai-Shek. Did the Americans put the communists in control of China by pulling support for him? Sure looks that way.

I had started reading Tuchman's 'Stilwell and the American Experience in China' because I was interested in the US and China. There is so much there. The extraterritorial court, the Boxers, the US Marines and Army 15th Infantry, Standard Oil, how the FDR family got so rich (off opium selling).

But what struck me most was how stupidly corrupt Kai-Shek, his Dragon Lady wife, and his senior officers were. They wouldn't stop stealing everything even when it endangered them.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2021 1:16 PM  

@Azimus

Rasputin told the Czar to stay out of the fighting in Serbia after the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, predicting accurately that if Russian troops got involved, the Czar would pay for it with his own life and worse.

WW1 was started by Czar Nicholas. Before Russian troops got involved, it was all an internal matter.

Rasputin was many things, but the man reliably told the truth that nobody wanted to hear. Demon posessed doesn't fit.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2021 1:24 PM  

"Chinese corruption" is like "frozen ice" -- absolutely redundant. Anyone who moves his company's manufacturing operations to China is a complete moron who can't see any farther ahead than the end of his own nose.

Blogger rcocean June 04, 2021 1:25 PM  

If you read The Morgenthau Diaries, you'll see that FDR was treating him as almost as a unofficial secretary of state. In fact, he gave Morgenthau the minutes of the Tehran conference, while withholding them from Cordell Hull. And who was Morgenthau's deputy? Why, Harry dexter White, a Communist. So was Morgenthau's private secretary. And then you have Eleanor who surrounded herself with Communists, Martha gellhorn, Joe Lash, Trudi, etc. She's also the one who got Harry Bridges and Browder out of legal trouble.

Instead of pointing out who was a Communist or communist sympathizer in FDR/Eleanor's inner circle, its easier to point out who was not!

Blogger Azimus June 04, 2021 2:05 PM  

@akulkis

If you read the accounts of his (Rasputin's) death, you may change your mind. I was aware of his anti-war stance, in fact I think thats why British intelligence ended up assassinating him.

Who knows how accurate the accounts are, but couple the story of his demise with some of his other.... talents... and you get the feeling this is more than just a bizarre monk with the tsarina's ear....

Blogger Azimus June 04, 2021 2:08 PM  

@Akulkis - mostly it was a joke, however.

The interesting thing is that UK was the first country to recognize USSR, in the late 1920's. They traded grain for heavy machinery if I remember my history class correctly. You know, the grain that would've otherwise went into the bellies of those Ukrainians Stalin starved. But I'm sure the Brits got a good price...

Blogger OldFan June 04, 2021 2:30 PM  

In 1945, the Soviet Steppe Front (15+ divisions) in Hungary had hardly a single tank, truck, field jacket, pair of boots, or field ration that was not "Made in America". Nobody under the rank of colonel was ever seen in a Russian uniform.

Lend/Lease definitely saved the Soviet Union in WW2, but only a few historians dare say so, because it would diminish the Red Army's legend.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2021 2:42 PM  

Dodge 2-ton IIRC.

Blogger English Tom June 04, 2021 3:22 PM  

@Azimus @Akulkis

The British agent who administered the coup de grace to Rasputin was named John Scales. I read it a while ago and cannot recall the book title.
If the tsar had halted Russian involvement in the war, Germany would have had many more divisions they could've transferred to the Western front, thus dooming Britain and France.
We were lucky we had some friendly jews who were able to get the US into the war to counter this move, the Balfour declaration and its attendant commitments being the price.

Blogger liberranter June 04, 2021 3:28 PM  

Same people who have been a cancer on humanity for the past 2000 years and are in dire need of being excised from the gene pool...

Or at the very least isolated away from Western society.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei June 04, 2021 3:43 PM  

Yes. It is part of the historical record. See Frank Dikotter "The Tragedy of Liberation"

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 04, 2021 4:01 PM  

I don't have to look deep into the past to see American help for the Russians, I just have to watch the news. The Tu-95 Bear is _again_ buzzing canadian airspace, there was a lapse for 15-20 years. It's based on the B-29 Superfortress. I wonder if they're in service just for canada? That's 1950s Russia (aka 1940s USA) technology.

Churchill said it best (paraphrasing) - 'This war isn't against Hitler or even National Socialism, it's about the will and strength of the German people which must be smashed forever.'

The Soviet Union was granted more freebies than Hunter Biden in a bo-hunk whorehouse, during and after World War Part 2:
- Trucks, airplanes (well, P-39s), aluminum, rubber, food from the USA
- The nuclear bomb (ooh that scary MacCarthy, he hung two traitors)
- USSR generals commanding US troops in Korea under the UN
- Cold War era investment from Wall Street; David Rockefeller (capitalist imperialist pigdog) owned the world's largest tractor factory - just outside Moscow
- Transfer of technology through the upper scientism caste and continual cooperation on psychiatry and other bankrupt 'medical' institutions
- Food relief in the 1980s and agricultural equipment reform through Glasnost (after Gorby visited Saskatchewan)
- Complete silence and implied consent for all communist activity worldwide from (((western))) media, including war against South Africa and Cuban colonialism (!) in Angola
- No actions taken by any Western European country after Chernobyl started irradiating people all over the place due to fallout and wind patterns

I'm sure I'm missing lots of things but you get the idea. And if you don't, look at their area of control before and after WW2. The Iron Curtain was held up by Western Steel.

Blogger Unknownsailor June 04, 2021 4:24 PM  

American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character is a book I have, and it goes into some detail about the Soviet agents that surrounded FDR, and lays the defeat of the Chinese Nationalists at the feed of soviet agents in the State Department.

It was a jarring read, because it destroyed my previously held beliefs vis a vis WWII and the backstory behind it. I already had an intense dislike of FDR due to his massive expansion of the Federal bureaucracy, but to find out he was a manipulated stooge for the Soviets, if not an outright communist himself?

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz June 04, 2021 5:41 PM  

Sorry, but no.
The fast soviet tanks (the BT tanks) were designed to move using wheels, not tracks. The tracks were secondary.
Wheels meant the hardened roads of Poland and Romania and Hungary and of course Germany and France.
The future Operational Area of the Soviet army was the Central and Western Europe long before 1933.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz June 04, 2021 5:43 PM  

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Blogger Azimus June 04, 2021 6:17 PM  

33. English Tom June 04, 2021 3:22 PM
If the tsar had halted Russian involvement in the war, Germany would have had many more divisions they could've transferred to the Western front, thus dooming Britain and France.


That did happen in the Ludendorff Offensive Spring 1918, and the UK & France held (notably with little American aid). If the Tsar negotiated a ceasefire in Spring 1917, at the zenith of Russian accomplishment (Brusilov offensive and wooing Romania's 650,000 troops/23 divisions into the war), doubtless the Germans would've had to leave more divisions as overwatch to the East than they did to secure their rear from the shattered remnants of infighting Russian factions they left behind in 1918.

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2021 7:03 PM  

WW1 was started by Czar Nicholas.

Maybe a bit unfair to Nikky. He told his generals not to mobilize but they did anyway - or at least a "partial" mobilization and sold it to him as a fait accompli, and nothing to worry about, preparatory only. But of course, what none of them really knew was any sort of mobilization at all would trigger the Germans to invade France and kick off the war.

Which Willie didn't want either, but again his generals told him there was nothing else to do, no other plan.

And even the French government had their ambassador to Russia intentionally mucking up messages between the governments so as to encourage war because he wanted Russia and Germany to fight before Germany got any stronger.

Just astonishing how corrupt, evil, and out of control so many high-ranking people were that kicked off that war. But less astonishing now I suppose, that we've seen the same thing up close in our own country.

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde June 04, 2021 7:27 PM  

One name explains why communists had infiltrated our government to such an extent, Free Masonry. In Roosevelt's day, the entire US economy was in the hands of some 300 men who held overlapping membership on each other's corporate boards. They provided the funding and ensured compliance. Roosevelt was in awe of such men and since he had always failed in business ventures was keen for their approval. Roosevelt's mother supported him for much of his earlier life.

Blogger A.D. June 04, 2021 9:34 PM  

He was a failure and an incompetent in addition to being a stooge and Communist. He was also gay and a Crypto-Jew. Not joking.

Blogger Hieroglyph June 04, 2021 10:51 PM  

In a curious coincidence, I just bought that very book 1 hour ago. I hadn't read your recommendation. Life is full of such incidents, is it not?

Blogger tublecane June 05, 2021 2:28 AM  

They're still vilifying Lindbergh for the treasonous act of naming Jews as ONE among THREE groups pushing the U.S. into war with Germany prior to Pearl Harbor. Despite it not being a very dramatic story. For the obvious reason that Jewish media supremacy is a myth./s

Maybe America First as a whole was a dramatic story, though it ended anti-climactically. But America First turned its back on Lindbergh like a klatch of jealous women, so screw it.

Blogger tweell June 05, 2021 5:27 AM  

I am reminded of an uncle's tale of comic books in 1940. He said that there was a Finn Winter War comic book series that he, brothers and friends had been following (they read it as they could, in the drugstore). One day a truck came and collected all the comics that cheered on the Finns. A week later, new comic books were delivered, and the Soviets were the heroes instead of the villains.

Blogger Obrien1984 June 05, 2021 6:36 AM  

Speaking of recommendations, check out TIK on YouTube. This guy has an amazing series on Stalingrad. Very detailed. He also goes in deep as to why Germany went to war and why they lost. In a nutshell: SOCIALISM!
The left tries to play up Hitler as a right winger, when in reality he hated capitalism. Hitler's views were guided by a flawed view of economics.

Blogger Bezzle June 05, 2021 7:47 AM  

@13 Nate73 June 04, 2021 10:41 AM
...if it wasn't for US aid to Stalin then the germans would have never lost on the eastern front.

@31. OldFan June 04, 2021 2:30 PM
In 1945, the Soviet Steppe Front (15+ divisions) in Hungary had hardly a single tank, truck, field jacket, pair of boots, or field ration that was not "Made in America". Nobody under the rank of colonel was ever seen in a Russian uniform.
Lend/Lease definitely saved the Soviet Union in WW2, but only a few historians dare say so, because it would diminish the Red Army's legend.


--German troops were still inside the Soviet border in late 1944, less than than six months before VE Day.

The vaunted, exalted, and endlessly pontificated upon Red Army tank battalions didn't do shit until after the Luftwaffe had obliterated itself against American air-power in Operation Bodenplatte.

Blogger Bezzle June 05, 2021 9:48 AM  

@13 Nate73 June 04, 2021 10:41 AM
...if it wasn't for US aid to Stalin then the germans would have never lost on the eastern front.

@31. OldFan June 04, 2021 2:30 PM
In 1945, the Soviet Steppe Front (15+ divisions) in Hungary had hardly a single tank, truck, field jacket, pair of boots, or field ration that was not "Made in America". Nobody under the rank of colonel was ever seen in a Russian uniform.
Lend/Lease definitely saved the Soviet Union in WW2, but only a few historians dare say so, because it would diminish the Red Army's legend.


--German troops were still inside the Soviet border in late 1944, less than than six months before VE Day.

The vaunted, exalted, and endlessly pontificated-upon Red Army tank battalions didn't do f-all until after the Luftwaffe had annihilated itself against American air-superiority in Operation Bodenplatte.

Blogger Bezzle June 05, 2021 9:55 AM  

@47. Obrien1984 June 05, 2021 6:36 AM
Hitler's views were guided by a flawed view of economics.


--That's too easy and too pat of an explanation, boiling down to: "He was stupid!" I.e., Hanlon's Razor rearing its fat, lying head again.

See Part 4 of "The Sequel to The Fall of the Cabal".

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 05, 2021 10:37 AM  

The US ambassador Bullitt married John Reed's widow. They had a child together. Then he discarded her. She ended her days as a homeless, helpless drunk in Paris. Louise Bryant. Her biography is titled The Queen of Bohemia.

Blogger eclecticme June 05, 2021 5:57 PM  

Found this from the author
https://youtu.be/FBRkVGpYZPg
Stalin’s War: A New History of World War II
2,431 views•Apr 29, 2021

Blogger eclecticme June 05, 2021 6:13 PM  

@13. crashJune 04, 2021 10:39 AM
I am reading it now. It sure makes me want to know more about Chiang Kai-Shek. Did the Americans put the communists in control of China by pulling support for him? Sure looks that way.


Blacklisted by History goes into details of how US State Dept or OSS commies directed US support to Mao and also Tito by lying about them and the non commies actions.

Blogger eclecticme June 05, 2021 6:49 PM  

@The US ambassador Bullitt married John Reed's widow. They had a child together. Then he discarded her. She ended her days as a homeless, helpless drunk in Paris. Louise Bryant. Her biography is titled The Queen of Bohemia.

I certainly did not know that. Reed was on the commie payroll while in the US, it turns out. Reds is my favorite movie of all time. No, it is not pro communist, if you pay attention. Makes me think of Out of Bondage by Elizabeth Bentley. In her book she focuses on the lack of humanity of the communists, especially toward her lover, more than ideology. That aspect is also in Reds, if you have seen it as many times as I have.

Another good book is Hitlerland. The impressions US diplomats and journalists had of Hitler and pre-war Germany. No hindsight allowed, just writings at the time. The women wrote that Hitler was effeminate, a "neuter", and likely could not have a sexual relationship with a woman.

One wrote that the Germans were little changed from those in the Teutoburg Forest.

Stalingrad. I thought the movie Enemy at the Gates was phony because it ended in a Hollywood fashion, the top two snipers meeting and having it out. I read Diary of a Russian sniper and it really happened that way, right down to the metal sheet providing cover. The hardcore History podcast was excellent story telling about the Eastern Front. In Ghosts of the Ostfront he writes of the field of bones near Stalingrad. Germans not buried too deep in the frozen soil keep emerging.

Here in Minnesota there are many Finns in the north, also in Wisconsin. Many went from the US to the USSR to build the promised land and ended up in gulags then mass graves.

I just read a tweet that the Finns are protesting the 1.5 M social distancing. They want to return to 1.5 kM distancing.

Blogger eclecticme June 05, 2021 8:19 PM  

Someone, likely VD, earlier wrote about how Stalin had pre-positioned offensive military equipment on the Western border. This included lighter, faster equipment and maybe bridging equipment. He may have referenced some Russian historian.

My memory fails me.

Blogger tublecane June 05, 2021 9:20 PM  

@eclecticne- Reds is at least pro-socialist. I don’t feel the need to make too fine a distinction. (It’s like figuring out what separates a White Supremacist from a German Supremacist in the kind of a contemporary leftist.)

Much like 1984 it is anti-Stalinist, and that’s where the good part of the movie arrives. Pinko disillusionment at communism in action. The writer was intellectually a child of the 1968 non-Revolution, and that tells you most of what you need know.

I have no problem watching commies criticize themselves, which is why 1984 is a good book.

Blogger tublecane June 05, 2021 9:34 PM  

@crash- George Marshall—of failing to inform Pearl Harbor of imminent attack fame—went on a “mission” (literally known to history as Marshall’s Mission) to supposedly unite Nationalists and Communists in China as a bulwark against Soviet encroachment in 1945. It had the opposite effect, in that the Soviets took over China through Mao.

It would obviously be a mistake to bother trying to use Chicoms against Russocoms. That’s like forming an alliance between a man and the wife who is cheating on him against the stranger who is cuckolding the man. I think the wife may not be on her husband’s side.

In any case, that strategy never actually existed. The plan was to prevent the Nationalists from winning, and that plan was a success. A very stupid success.

Incidentally, the Soviets at one time or another held children of both Mao and Chiang hostage. So they controlled both sides.

Blogger eclecticme June 05, 2021 10:32 PM  

@56. tublecaneJune 05, 2021 9:20 PM
@eclecticne- Reds is at least pro-socialist.


As the movie progresses the commie line is destroyed bit by bit in the dialogue. I only saw one movie in the theater more than once. I saw Reds 5 times, long ago. It starts out pro commie.It starts out with Diane Keaton as a ditsy broad. It ends with her as the only sane voice in the movie. Warren Beatty looks like an idiot toward the end.

Beatty co-wrote the movie so he wrote the lines, or least OKed the lines, that made him look silly. He directed, produced, and starred in the movie. He had total control.

There was a scene in a shed where Beatty asks about a worker who was injured in an accident. One guy asks "So Harvard, is that what they read about in Greenwich Village now, industrial accidents?" Wow. What liberal writes lines like that?

There is a scene where Beatty is berating some comrade who failed to make a meeting because his kid was sick. Keaton sticks up for the comrade and Beatty tears into her. He looks inhumane.

At one point Beatty is going on and on about which US commie faction is going to be recognized by the Comintern. Keaton tears him a new a-hole. Beatty wrote those lines or OKed them.

Then there is a scene where Jerzy Kozinsky is bragging how he attended to party matters when his son was very ill in the hospital. The camera flashes to the son's painful face for maybe 1/4 second. Wow.

There were scenes toward the end where Emma Goldman tears Beatty a new ahole about communism. Then there is Jack Nicholson . His lines are priceless.

Please do not accuse me of sperging on Reds when I confess to it. In summary, Beatty wrote or OKed lines that destroyed Reed.

Blogger tublecane June 06, 2021 5:14 AM  

@eclecticme- You may be thinking of the Chief Culprit by Viktor Suvorov.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine June 06, 2021 6:10 AM  

"We were lucky we had some friendly jews who were able to get the US into the war to counter this move, the Balfour declaration and its attendant commitments being the price."

Lucky your shipping/banking slavemasters, to protect their own globalistic interests, managed to get the US into a war that had nothing to do with it, by murdering US civilians and blaming it on Germany.

You'll have to accept my loathing of your deference to Fortuna in the matter.

"Or at the very least isolated away from Western society."

Which would of course be decried as atrociously genocidal and unchristia--err, anti-semitic. Just as it was last time a polity tried to kick the alien (((people))) out, and the time before that, etc.

The core of the problem is twofold, that the (((people))) are a skinsuit for the Prometheans, and that the (((people))) have enough members who aren't Prometheans and yet can't be assed to kick the Prometheans out. The Prometheans get to use this as a double shield, insulation to one side, plausible deniability to the other.

Blogger eclecticmn June 08, 2021 9:50 PM  

@45. tublecaneJune 05, 2021 2:28 AM
They're still vilifying Lindbergh for the treasonous act of naming Jews as ONE among THREE groups pushing the U.S. into war with Germany prior to Pearl Harbor. Despite it not being a very dramatic story. For the obvious reason that Jewish media supremacy is a myth./s


In Hitlerland, they describe how badly the Americans wanted to see what the Germans had for airplanes. The Germans had no desire to reveal what they had. Then they learned that Lindberg was in Germany and wanted to have a look around. They worshiped him so they showed him (and the US military attaches) what they had. A major win for the US. Lindberg also later showed US pilots in the Pacific how to adjust carneurator(?) settings in a plane,maybe P38, to greatly extend range. He even flew a mission, as a civilan. The brass put an end to that.

I really appreciate the comments here. I am halfway through The China Model, recommened here. It is OK. Author had some liberal blind spots. The Party was better IMO but dated as to censorship. I have The Queen of Bohemia on order.

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