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Sunday, July 18, 2021

Scientists have no idea

They haven't begun to grasp how well dogs understand humans:

Dogs really are “man’s best friend” and “get” humans in a way other animals simply can’t relate to. Sorry “Game of Thrones” fans, a new study finds even the dog’s closest relatives – wolf pups – don’t gel with people the same way.

Researchers from Duke University say 14,000 years of domestication plays a big part in this. In fact, man’s best friend has actually evolved to understand human gestures and look to humans for help in a way that no other animals do.

Study authors, who compared wolf pups raised by humans to dogs who had barely any contact with people, discovered that dogs still outperform their wolf counterparts in tests of their understanding and co-operation with humans. The team behind the research adds their results show dogs instinctively understand people.

I discovered today that our dogs know what "perambulation" means. I'm not kidding. We had to find other ways to discuss the possibility of going outside for a walk without using the words "outside", "walk", or even "the w-word". Saying "how do you feel about a perambulation" worked for a few weeks, until today, when one of the Ridgebacks immediately leaped to her feet and barked as soon as she heard the word, which promptly set off the rest of the pack.

I wonder how long it will take them to learn Chinese?

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Blogger Filter Bear July 18, 2021 2:31 PM  

Our shiba sits at my wife's feet when she is about to have an irregular heartbeat due to her afib. No training whatsoever.

Blogger Taignobias July 18, 2021 2:41 PM  

This was warning sign 1 for Islam: no dogs. First time I heard that, I knew the religion couldn't possibly be good.

I grew up with a little shit of a terrier, a sheltie, and a couple of papillons. After college and marriage, I finally got a little poodle mix, and he is just 20lbs of joy.

First time training a dog, and he did all the work. So smart, and so eager.

Blogger Harambe July 18, 2021 2:42 PM  

I'm sure part or that 14 millennia of evolution includes instinctively recognizing the Chinese words for "Dog" and "Caserole".

Blogger Scofflaw July 18, 2021 2:53 PM  

I always thought my dog friends sort of knew what I was thinking. I can't really explain it. But they could tell what I was focusing on. Unless they were dumb. A dumb dog is just a dumb dog. I'm dogless at the moment. I really liked the last couple golden retriever dogs I have known. I want an red coloured retriever to match my orange cat named Gary.

Blogger Workaholic Bear July 18, 2021 2:53 PM  

If you need a sign that God loves us just look at dogs

Blogger Wazdakka July 18, 2021 2:57 PM  

They understand Chinese just fine, "dinnertime" sends them running for the hills

Blogger george synol July 18, 2021 2:58 PM  

Cats aren't far behind; cats understand humans more than liberal "humans" do.

Blogger Ingemar July 18, 2021 2:58 PM  

Scientists will conjure up all sorts of fairy stories in a vain effort to deny the Divinely established dominion humans have over animals.

Blogger Balkan Yankee July 18, 2021 2:59 PM  

Lion hounds. Nice choice of canine.

Blogger Newscaper312 July 18, 2021 3:02 PM  

Phonetically easier I guess, but had a Shetland Sheepdog back in HS that very quickly learned that B-A-L-L spelled out meant 'ball'.
Before that we had several Dalmatians, who ere energetic, very good natured, and pretty dumb.

As a married adult never had a dog until got a puppy 7 years ago. Adopted neighborhood stray cats a couple times over the years before, and we were lucky that they were a bit more doglike in being affectionate instead of aloof, but the Boston Terrier is family in a way they never quite were.

Probably good we did not have the dog until well after our son. SOme people joke about the pet as practice for a child, but I know too many childless 30-ish Millennial couples where the pets have clearly become child surrogates. Genuinely smart people so sad to see whites with their shit otherwise together not pass it on.

Blogger Zander Stander July 18, 2021 3:03 PM  

Well dogs can smell covid 19,even if the carrier does not know he has it. Pretty soon they will be trained to smell the not-vax, I'm sure.

Blogger Melvin July 18, 2021 3:05 PM  

Humans seems to be the only species capable of ignoring important information, why?

Blogger Iskander Magnus July 18, 2021 3:06 PM  

Dogs might cringe and whimper on hearing “wok”.

Blogger Ranger July 18, 2021 3:07 PM  

Do a Biden. "Let's get a, you know, the thing"

Blogger Dave W. July 18, 2021 3:10 PM  

Learn Chinese? The Chinese still eat dogs. There was another Dog Meat Festival in Yulin in June. American dogs will learn to run when they hear Chinese.

Blogger Lucas Evans July 18, 2021 3:11 PM  

Stray dogs in Russia use the subway. They listen to the announcements to know when to get on and off.

Blogger Kraemer July 18, 2021 3:13 PM  

Why Chinese when you can learn sign language? Dogs are practically blind as far as fast hand signals go

Blogger Nea July 18, 2021 3:16 PM  

:D <3 A man who did not have a dog had a much poorer life and I firmly believe that dogs are angels that God has masked and sent us to make our life on Earth easier and happier.

Blogger Across the World July 18, 2021 3:20 PM  

The human dog tag-team has been a world beater.

Blogger Warunicorn July 18, 2021 3:20 PM  

I remember my black Lab would always try to comfort me when he knew I was sad. He would give me a hug if I was sitting down.

I despise the fact they only live a fraction of our lives.

Blogger nobuddy July 18, 2021 3:25 PM  

Try obscure literary terms. Surely, you don't allow them into your inner-sanctum.

Blogger glueballs July 18, 2021 3:26 PM  

I wonder how long it will take them to learn Chinese?

Never sadly. Those hearing the Chinese term for “supper” the first time will be almost immediately consumed.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 18, 2021 3:32 PM  

Ridgebacks are inter-dimensional time travellers.
They do it to get extra meals.

Blogger Joe July 18, 2021 3:34 PM  

All of our dogs quickly learned the word "cookie," and would immediately drop to a sitting position, tails wagging, when they heard it.

They also quickly learned how to spell the word, and to recognize "the C-word" and "a baked good."

But our oldest, Louise, demonstrated just how well she understood her humans one day: I looked at my wife, and then glanced towards the cabinet where the cookies were kept (as a way of saying, "shall we give them a cookie?") and Louise's butt hit the floor and her tail started wagging.

Blogger Avalanche July 18, 2021 3:39 PM  

Thanks, Vox, for the delighted laugh! We had to quit even spelling b a t h, cause the German Shepherd would take off for the hills!

We also used to ask another shepherd if she wanted to "go be a bride?" and she would race for the car... (We'd take her for a drive anyway; no fair teasing and not delivering!)

Blogger A stranger in a strange land July 18, 2021 3:43 PM  

That dog will be a huge help in communicating with our new Chinese overlords.

Blogger Joe July 18, 2021 3:44 PM  

All of our dogs quickly learned the word, "cookie," and would immediately drop to a sit, tails wagging, when they heard it.

They also quickly learned what "baked goods" and "the C-word" meant, and they even learned the word spelled out.

But our oldest, Louise, showed just how well she understood her humans one day when I caught my wife's eye and nodded towards the cabinet where the cookies were kept (as a way of saying, "shall we give them a cookie?") and Louise's butt hit the floor and her tail started wagging.

Dogs are the best.

Blogger Magnifico July 18, 2021 3:51 PM  

Some here, we can't say the word, "outside" without her going nuts, so she can run around in the backyard. She also knows the hand signal like stop to sit down.

Blogger Dave in Ahia July 18, 2021 3:56 PM  

Dogs understand people better than people do.

Blogger rondolf July 18, 2021 3:59 PM  

Hopefully they will learn to run when they hear the Chinese word for dinnertime.

Blogger pyrrhus July 18, 2021 4:00 PM  

Totally concur..Our Westie clearly understands hundreds of words, and reads all of our actions near perfectly...But I think the research now shows that dogs were domesticated at least 30,000 years ago, from wolves who were hanging around midden heaps...

Blogger Azimus July 18, 2021 4:01 PM  

If dogs lived 30yrs, you'd have use the Enigma machine to talk about "walk" "lake" or "ride", and even that might not be safe

Blogger Countrylawyer July 18, 2021 4:03 PM  

Yes, I’ve experienced this as well. One of my dogs can spell. We started saying O-U-T-S-I-D-E and it took him about three days to catch on. He doesn’t do it with any other spellings, just that one.

Blogger Nostromo July 18, 2021 4:12 PM  

Quicker than me no doubt.

Blogger Noah B. July 18, 2021 4:13 PM  

Dogs are like children in so many ways. They both learn a great deal without letting on until, all of a sudden, they surprise you. My dad's lab could tell whether we were about to take him on a road trip based on which of our own gear we were loading the truck with. Before the Pet Porter and other dog toys came out he was already jumping as high as he could, barking hysterically in his high-pitched puppy bark.

Blogger Moose_HC July 18, 2021 4:15 PM  

Mrs. Moose and I were just saying yesterday that doggo didn't take long to learn how to spell walk.

Blogger Evstratios July 18, 2021 4:15 PM  

Not long indeed, I bred and security trained American pits of several bloodlines for a number of years in any language.

Personally, mostly Japanese. Saying 'Daigoro, ichiban!' in the style of Lone Wolf and Cub and have one jump in the window of a moving car is a heck of a lot of fun.

So many things come out in long years of careful selection. The scientrists still behind decades, predictably.

Multiple locii for these traits, I have alot of notes on this area from those years, sometimes you get high vocal acuity with zero gesture comprehension and vice versa, both heritable. I came up with alot of tests to determine working animals, favourite thing I got into. Always had my eye on ridgebacks but I stuck to the pits for variability, then later dogo argentino.

Reminding me to get back into it. Every family should have at least one capable canine companion.

Blogger Mark Butterworth July 18, 2021 4:19 PM  

Our white German Shepherd knew "walk" so well that words like talk, hawk, chalk would get her going.

She then learned all our alternatives, too.

Blogger Barbarossa July 18, 2021 4:23 PM  

One of my dogs could tell from what piece of luggage I touched whether it was a trip she could go on or not. If she saw the olive drab bags, she would watch the packing but nothing else. If it was civilian bags, she would park herself right in the middle of the action with an implicit "Don't forget me!"

Blogger crash July 18, 2021 4:30 PM  

If I am not mistaken, that puts your dog above the average Rhodesian IQ.

Blogger Nihil Dicit July 18, 2021 4:31 PM  

Tonal languages are probably harder for dogs, with their greater aural range.

Blogger JG July 18, 2021 4:36 PM  

Which one of the kids has a thesaurus? That one is plotting with the dogs.

Blogger Hammerli 280 July 18, 2021 4:38 PM  

Are these midwit dogs, or +3 SD? :-)

Blogger Geir Balderson July 18, 2021 4:39 PM  

Will 'scientists' ever understand SJWs? Dogs are loyal and can be good friends. SJWs are just plain crazy.

Blogger Lauri Stark July 18, 2021 4:40 PM  

Whatever you do, your dogs will figure it out.

Blogger Cinco July 18, 2021 4:55 PM  

I just promised my daughter a Rhodesian as soon as she can “around the world” with a soccer ball. She has been in the yard practicing all day.

Blogger Bernardo De La Paz July 18, 2021 4:57 PM  

Going back to your previous post about neanderthals being able to pinch hit for Orcs, I don't think it's a coincidence that ruff-ly the same time H. Sapiens made a comeback is the same time we teamed up with doggos ancestors...

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer July 18, 2021 5:01 PM  

I once read about a study that concluded that dogs watched what their owners did and remembered it. From this I inferred that the whoever conducted this study had never, ever even seen a dog before conducting the "study."

Also, how do you know if your dog wants to go on a walk. Its a dog, it wants to go on a walk.

Blogger Mad Italian July 18, 2021 5:08 PM  

Do they understand how this undercuts the tabla rosa, magic dirt theory?

Blogger Josh Brown July 18, 2021 5:25 PM  

W-a-l-k worked for a while.

Blogger Amigo July 18, 2021 5:26 PM  

Best of luck on the Chinese. We switched to "sampo" for taking a walk, after our dogs learned "walk", outside" and "w-a-l-k". It only works for a couple of weeks before they figure out the new code word.

Blogger Maniac July 18, 2021 5:32 PM  

With Jinping's incoming Great Leap Forward 2.0, not very.

Blogger Tanjil Bren July 18, 2021 5:44 PM  

"We had to find other ways to discuss the possibility of going outside for a walk without using the words "outside", "walk", or even "the w-word."

Same.

We had a GS who developed a working vocabulary comprising literally dozens of key words.

We ended up having to spell them when she worked out what the replacements were.

Chaos ensued whenever we forgot.

Blogger Mamabear37 July 18, 2021 5:51 PM  

Have the same issue with our border collies. Hot words we've had to avoid include walk, outside, outdoors, go, ball, Frisbee, and basically a lexicon of other dog related words. They're incredible intelligent. And the two we have now aren't even the smartest ones we've owned. Our first was about as close to human as a dog can get. I'm convinced she experienced empathy. She tried to go with my husband on deployment once. Kept crawling into his sea bags, for hours hoping to be "packed." She moped for weeks after he left.

Blogger Peter July 18, 2021 5:52 PM  

Those peripatetic dogs always seem to learn so much.

Blogger Filter Bear July 18, 2021 6:04 PM  

Also, our american akita learned the word "tick" after I pulled one off him once, and now he scampers whenever I say "tick check"

Blogger Reader July 18, 2021 6:09 PM  

Lucas Evans wrote:Stray dogs in Russia use the subway. They listen to the announcements to know when to get on and off.
That cracked me up.

Blogger Akulkis July 18, 2021 6:21 PM  

>> Try obscure literary terms. Surely, you don't allow them into your inner-sanctum.

All this does is give the dog a larger vocabulary of synonyms.

It's like trying to find new antibiotics for antibiotic-resistant strains of infectious bacteria -- a never ending race because too many people who have no business being doctors cave in to patients' demands of "give me antibiotics" for viral infections, plus other idiots who only use their antibiotic prescription until they "feel better" so that they will have more on hand in case a relapse occurs, which is primarily due to not taking the entirety of the prescribed pills in the first place.... But then the relapse consists of those bacteria, which, for whatever reason of genetics, wasn't quite as susceptible to that anti-biotic as the bulk of what caused the patient's ailment.

This is how common infectious bacteria become strongly resistant to one or more antibiotics

Blogger AlmostAmishBear July 18, 2021 6:22 PM  

Thesaurus. Invest.

Blogger person on internet July 18, 2021 6:33 PM  

My favorite story of this kind is the one about the Turnspit Dogs and the wheel Ezekiel saw: https://infogalactic.com/info/Turnspit_Dog

Blogger Allen July 18, 2021 6:34 PM  

I had a wolf hybrid and he was a fantastic creature to have around. He very much exhibited classic wolf behavior and his features were mostly wolf. I would say he was more socialized than trained. After one of the horses kicked him he went deaf. He learned to respond to ASL which was pretty interesting. So it's not a matter of intelligence per se.

What I found enjoyable to watch was how some people responded to seeing a man with a wolf companion. "Does he b-b-b-bite?" Of course he does, he eats what he tears off too.

Blogger UncleV July 18, 2021 6:41 PM  

Zammy is fluent in Chinese Ridgeback. He wants to come play with your pack!

Blogger eclecticmn July 18, 2021 6:49 PM  

Apparently I prepare for a walk. I forget my cell phone so go get it. Go to the bathroom, grab a dog poop bag. He knows what is about to happen.

My dad said that dogs have some anti bacterial stuff in their saliva. Dunno know if that is true. If I have cuts on me my dog licks the wounds until they scab over good.

Blogger dienw July 18, 2021 7:07 PM  

Harambe wrote:I'm sure part or that 14 millennia of evolution includes instinctively recognizing the Chinese words for "Dog" and "Caserole".
Don't forget knowing the difference between "wok" and "walk."

Blogger Unknown July 18, 2021 7:13 PM  

Re: the dog alerting to the heartbeat - seizure dogs "self-train." You have a service dog. Get id.

Blogger The Last Roman July 18, 2021 7:34 PM  

All I have to do is look at her leash and my German Shepherd gets up and runs to the door. Sometimes it seems as if she is reading my mind.

Blogger JovianStorm July 18, 2021 7:36 PM  

My mom had a rescue chihuahua and inside of 3 months that 10 year old dog was fully trained and could understand about 12 different commands.

Dogs are awesome

Blogger van helsing July 18, 2021 7:40 PM  

they can learn about 150 words. they wont know perambulation, maybe the first two syllables are their signal word. they DO know all yer mannerisms and habits, especially hand gestures. they know when you are sleeping and whether you have been bad or good, like Santa Claus. meanwhile, cant use the term "walk" here, and "stroll" is about ready to be filed away too.

Blogger sammibandit July 18, 2021 8:07 PM  

Will this make people doubt evolution if feral dogs can understand humans?

Blogger Nihil Dicit July 18, 2021 8:17 PM  

Ot - Minecraft used have absurd, sometimes funny phrases pop up on the main menu. Toaday, it was "Educate your friends on anti-racism!". Little sad to have uninstall and wipe the registry, but what else is to be done?

Blogger Cappuccinobear July 18, 2021 8:17 PM  

14000 years of domestication? I'm pretty sure it's closer to 140,000 years for dogs, 14000 for cats maybe...

Blogger Nihil Dicit July 18, 2021 8:23 PM  

Will this make people doubt evolution if feral dogs can understand humans?

Why would it? It's far more like to cause Sjws and their ilk to claim "See, you can be taught to un-learn racism/sexism/homopobia/pedophobia/Christianity! It may take 14,000 years but we don't care how long and how many lives it costs!"

Blogger SonyAD July 18, 2021 8:50 PM  

I have 3 bitches. They're either wonderful creatures, completely unlike any other. Many times they understand me from a hand gesture, a look, a word, a scream of their name.

They are smart and loving. One of them cries of joy when I get home. Another exchanges belly rubs for treats and licks my heel when she's particularly happy and grateful. She knows how to manipulate me for treats and does so relentlessly and skillfully.

Dogs also smile. Not all though. Others cry and simper with joy at your sight. Others express their love and appreciation in other ways. They are truly special animals.

Blogger sammibandit July 18, 2021 9:17 PM  

Why would it?

I don't know, just spit balling. It's making me question evolution more.

Blogger shadohand (akuma sock account# 7373636 ...crazy only responds to crazy) July 18, 2021 9:20 PM  

@Bernado De La Paz

Neanderthals tamed the dire wolf.

Blogger shadohand (akuma sock account# 7373636 ...crazy only responds to crazy) July 18, 2021 10:00 PM  

Diogenes was right!

Blogger crash July 18, 2021 10:03 PM  

My dog can be a prick when he wants to be. If I am late for his walk, he will then make me wait like some passive aggressive bullshit.
He is used to his evening walk at 8pm which I look forward to as much as he does. He is always ready to go at 7:45 bugging me. If I get caught up in something and have to put it off till even 8:15, he will find something important to do when I come to get him.
I swear, he is punishing me. Its like he decides thats the time he must eat, drink, play with his favorite toy or chew a stick all while ignoring me.
After five minutes or so of bugging him he finally comes along. Its as if he is telling me that the walk is on his terms. I laugh every time, its a ritual.

Blogger Akulkis July 18, 2021 10:39 PM  

Dogs are better observers than people because they primarily live in the present. People spend a lot of time trying to live in the near future.

Blogger Owen July 18, 2021 10:49 PM  

Haha! Dogs are geniuses when it comes to anticipation of a walk. Just picking up the leash is enough to drive my brother’s dog into paroxysms of joy.

Blogger Shane Bradman July 18, 2021 11:01 PM  

Whenever I go walking, I make eye contact with every dog on the track. They are always receptive and understand when eye contact is an invitation for interaction. Cats do not do this, nor do other animals.

Blogger Christina July 19, 2021 12:13 AM  

I love dogs. I think it's maybe one topic that 90%+ of us can agree on. I can't imagine a world without them.

Cats, it depends. Known some good ones, but also some real asshole cats.

Blogger teemac July 19, 2021 1:05 AM  

honestly, my wife just starts thinking about the walk and our big mutt picks up on it.

Blogger Pathfinderlight July 19, 2021 1:09 AM  

For a long time, scientists thought dogs were stupid because they were so obedient, kind, and friendly. Turns out, it was just boomers doing the science. Now that the boomers are dying, all of a sudden dogs doing the exact same things makes them smart. Imagine that.

Blogger Harambe July 19, 2021 2:05 AM  

Dogs can tell which people are assholes and that's one of the greatest superpowers there is

Blogger Wes350 July 19, 2021 2:59 AM  

My Mother fractured her tibia. While she is resting up as a matter of routine our 11 pound poodle will get on the bed and sniff her leg when it is under the covers.

She will then lay down along the leg where it hurts most, exactly where the fracture is, to try and comfort her.

And when it comes to the W-a-l-k or t-r-e-a-t, switching languages and spelling words out just teaches them Spanish...

They literally have nothing better to do with their time than to learn everything about their humans that there is to know.

If you embrace the commitment that dogs require, you will never have a better friend in your life.

Blogger AgiS July 19, 2021 3:17 AM  

This is so true. The first letter of the word "walk" was enough for our dog to make him go wild with excitement. We had to watch our tongues with this one! He left us four days ago after almost fourteen wonderful years. This post brought tears to my eyes. Bless you.

Blogger Shimshon July 19, 2021 3:54 AM  

Two GSDs. One 8yo female and a 3yo male from her last litter. Both very smart and clever.

When I go to the couch to nap, the male likes to lie down at my feet. He often knows whether or not I'm going to the couch when I walk past him in the hallway, and heads right over to his spot only when that's my intended destination. Not right 100% of the time, but pretty close.

We have to come up with alternatives for walk, cookie and the like too.

Blogger map July 19, 2021 5:06 AM  

Dogs left the Garden of Eden to follow Man...they felt we needed the company.

Blogger captainofthegate July 19, 2021 5:33 AM  

Every notice how every now and then your dog has an instinctive dislike to some people? Trust your dog. Good dog. Dogs are better detectors of threats than we.

Blogger Slippin JImmy July 19, 2021 6:29 AM  

This reminds me of my Mom's last dog, a Springer cross. Her old dog house was falling down so my Mom bought her a new one. She absolutely refused to sleep in it - until one day someone walking by said to my Mom "What a lovely little dog house. Our dog would love a house like that." Whereupon she (the dog, not Mom) went straight to the house and lay down in it.

Blogger Harambe July 19, 2021 7:29 AM  

dienw wrote:Harambe wrote:I'm sure part or that 14 millennia of evolution includes instinctively recognizing the Chinese words for "Dog" and "Caserole".

Don't forget knowing the difference between "wok" and "walk."



Ha! A very excellent point indeed!

Blogger PJW Gent July 19, 2021 7:40 AM  

Filter Bear wrote:Our shiba sits at my wife's feet when she is about to have an irregular heartbeat due to her afib. No training whatsoever.
FYI: A friend of mine who had afib went on the Linus Pawling protocol and his afib disappeared and has not returned after over 5 years. (http://hearttechnology.com/)

Blogger Avalanche July 19, 2021 7:55 AM  

@41 "Tonal languages are probably harder for dogs, with their greater aural range."

I shouldn't think so, if the wolf pack 'singing' is anything to go by...

Might be, if dogs avoid learning chinese, it's because they don't wish to be tortured to death for someone's dinner.... 'the torture makes the meat taste sweeter' the bastards claim!

Blogger Avalanche July 19, 2021 8:01 AM  

@71 "14000 for cats maybe..."

You mean 14,000 MORE, right?

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 19, 2021 8:02 AM  

Pure breeds are smarter than mixed breeds.
It applies to people as well.

Blogger Avalanche July 19, 2021 8:04 AM  

@74 "It's making me question evolution more."

Sammi (hey!), if you'd like a deep fascinating dive: Read and/or watch Drs. Doug Axe and/or Stephan Meyer... Their books and lectures/interviews are amazing: they approach evolution entirely from the biology and mathematics sides. Both excellent writers and lecturers.



Blogger xevious2030 July 19, 2021 8:19 AM  

The number of eye rolls ours gives my wife and I. They aren’t supposed to be that smart. Supposed to be, anyway. Developmentally a teenager, even if by a limited breadth of scope, at least.

Blogger tublecane July 19, 2021 8:52 AM  

Someone inform the article writer they’re not witty. Game of Thrones features not wolves but magical creatures into whose minds certain characters can stick their consciousness .

I cannot as of yet do that with dogs.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 19, 2021 9:14 AM  

We've always had boxers, but now we've got a boxer/pit/cattle dog mix. The mix incredibly and strangely popular. Looks like a boxer with a pit head and cow spots under his fur. Gorgeous dog, and the smartest dog I've ever seen. He knows the names of his best dog friends, and 10 other words.

Amazing dog.

Blogger wgmeisheid July 19, 2021 11:18 AM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:We've always had boxers, but now we've got a boxer/pit/cattle dog mix. The mix incredibly and strangely popular. Looks like a boxer with a pit head and cow spots under his fur. Gorgeous dog, and the smartest dog I've ever seen. He knows the names of his best dog friends, and 10 other words.

Amazing dog.

Can't find a breeder, so if you know any...

Blogger xevious2030 July 19, 2021 11:57 AM  

“that dogs have some anti bacterial stuff in their saliva”

They do. You do too. Free things pharmaceutical companies would prefer you don’t know. Only gross weirdos don’t pay a doctor and the pharmacist for corporate medication. Or so they say.

Blogger Canada78Bear July 19, 2021 2:57 PM  

Old news. There was a great documentary covering research of how dogs do this and breeding foxes to produce domestication.

We have bred dogs to understand us better than we know ourselves.

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 19, 2021 3:08 PM  

Dogs can get meaning, maybe they learn words too but I think they pick us up on a level beyond that. Owner emotions download directly to our dogs, so much so that Bill Burr has a bit on it.

Grew up with dogs, later found myself with one woman and her four cats. They were either rescue/outdoor or half-wild, not 'pick up and pet' style. I had some success communicating, simply by talking to them. Took me years to figure this out - I felt like 'Manny' in "Moon is a Harsh Mistress," talking to the computer and expecting a response. The mancoon stayed aloof but he would react to things I'd say: "Hey shithead, there's an open box in this room."

The frostiest cat had been raised with big dogs - cagey and bitey. She acted calmer when I told her I was approaching, didn't ambush or run away anymore. Eventually with enough trust we could call her by name, and she'd approach like a dog. Stopped biting too.

Blogger Unknown July 19, 2021 8:48 PM  

cats and dogs have a similar limbic system to humans

Blogger Ozymandius July 20, 2021 4:19 AM  

Rhodesian Ridgebacks are incredibly impressive dogs. People have to see them in person to understand this!

One of the units I teach in ancient history is how dogs became partners with homo sapiens during the paleolithic. We may not have survived without them. It is in our blood to love dogs. Unless a person is allergic, or has had some traumatic experience with them, I believe there is something wrong with a person who doesn't like dogs. A bit simplistic? Yes, but I'm always right!

Blogger RMH in StL July 20, 2021 6:35 AM  

We lucked out in the dog department. This little dog is the smartest dog I have every owned. But early on I thought my dog's reaction to certain words had to be my imagination. It didn't take long to realize I was not imagining things. He'd become instantly perky if anyone said the word "walk". We didn't have to say it to him or with any particular emotion or inflection. And if the word was proceeded by his name ("I think I'll take Mootu for a walk") he'd come running from the next room - not to where we were talking, but straight to where his leash hangs on a hook close to the door! He's getting old now and we figured out his hearing is fading. The first sign was when this behavior began to fade. Now you can clap your hand 5 feet away from the poor little guy and get zero reaction. I'm going to be a mess when we lose him.

Blogger Helmholz July 20, 2021 10:40 AM  

Best bumper sticker ever: "Lord, I wish people saw me as my dog does." Our family friend, Cole, had to be put down a couple years ago. The next day I came home and he wasn't there to greet me like a conquering hero. It felt so empty. I miss him.

Blogger Cwyn July 20, 2021 11:24 AM  

@2 IMO Middle Easterners generally hate dogs because they're thieves, liars and generally bad people. Dogs know this and give away that truth. Liars always hate being called out.

Blogger Storm Rhode July 20, 2021 12:26 PM  

Genetic societal memory might be a thing, losing it to dilution could be too.

Hitler referred to blood poisoning. Might have been right in more ways than he suspected.

Blogger Akulkis July 20, 2021 1:59 PM  

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Might be, if dogs avoid learning chinese, it's because they don't wish to be tortured to death for someone's dinner.... 'the torture makes the meat taste sweeter' the bastards claim.

It's an abject lie. If anything, stress hormones make meat take on very off-putting flavors. One of the reasons to gut and dress a deer IMMEDIATELY, where it falls, is to limit the spread of stress hormones into the meat. I had some venison which came from a deer which wasn't gutted until getting to the deer processor the next day. The meat was incredibly "gamey" and my friend and I decided that to be able to eat the rest, the remaining steaks and roasts would have to be ground up, and then only used at a ratio of 1 part ground venison, 2 parts ground beef. And even then, strong sauces were required to keep the stress hormone tastes covered up.

The Chinese are just sadistic assholes and use this excuse for deliberately torturing food animals before killing 'em

Blogger Across the World July 21, 2021 6:48 AM  

Nothing hurt worse than losing my dog. And if I was a tear drop fixing to escape from the maximum security penitentiary that is my eyes, I’d definitely wait until Old Yeller was on to make a move.

Blogger JeanetteVictoria July 21, 2021 10:38 AM  

Just a FYI dogs can also learn to spell!

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