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Tuesday, July 20, 2021

USN throws out Royal Navy bait

It's becoming clear that the US Navy is using the Royal Navy as bait in the attempt to learn just how willing Russia and China are to defend their territorial claims and what cards they have to play in that regard.

The United Kingdom has announced plans to permanently deploy a fleet of naval vessels to Japan, sailing through the South China Sea, as Western countries increase engagement in the Pacific region.

The UK announced on Tuesday that it will be permanently deploying two naval vessels to waters surrounding Japan later this year ahead of the HMS ‘Queen Elizabeth’-led aircraft carrier strike group’s arrival in Japan.

“Following on from the strike group’s inaugural deployment, the United Kingdom will permanently assign two ships in the region from later this year,” UK Defense Minister Ben Wallace said in Tokyo at a joint press conference with his Japanese counterpart, Nobuo Kishi. “We will respect China and we hope that China respects us. We will sail where international law allows.”

Wallace stated that the British vessels will not be specifically based at a Japanese port but will patrol the surrounding waters. 

Of course, this involves a redefinition of "where international law allows" in order to test the willingness of Russia and China to put their ship-killing missiles where their lines on the map are. Using the British ships as a proxy is actually a good sign, as it means the USN has an excuse to back down and avoid WWIII if either the Russians or Chinese decide to call their bluff and sink the intruding ship with something the US forces aren't equipped to handle.

If I had to guess who is more likely to call and raise, I would think it would be China. Having successfully taken Hong Kong, the Chinese are increasingly confident of bringing Taiwan back into the fold and Xi appears to be a little bolder and a lot less deferential to the neoclowns than Putin.

And time is not on the neoclowns' side. Every month, the China-Russia-Iran Concord grows stronger, while both the neoclowns' grip on the North Atlantic Empire and the Empire itself gets weaker. If the neoclowns don't make use the North Atlantic forces soon, they will lose the ability to do so, and they've never had more influence over an administration than they do over the fraudulent Biden one.

The problem is, the effort to use that influence risks stirring up both the American and the British people against them. It's legitimately a difficult call, but their historical lack of risk aversion will, sooner or later, lead them to push their luck too far. This is why war is more likely than not, barring the exposure and removal of the fraudulent administration.

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68 Comments:

Blogger Iron Spartan July 20, 2021 10:08 AM  

China won't make a move on Taiwan until the newest strain of Wuflu is released that specifically targets those the sheep shot variants most commonly used by the US military.

Blogger Nihil Dicit July 20, 2021 10:10 AM  

This is how far "Great" Britain has fallen, reduced to playing decoy duck for the disintegrating American Empire.

Blogger Unknown July 20, 2021 10:17 AM  

Vox probably gets a better mix of international news in Europe, but I have been seeing the Aussies are starting to wake up to China ordering them around.

The RAN itself now has two large helo carriers, two underway replenishment ships, and three new antiair destroyers. Plus, they are upgunning their frigates with antiship missiles.

Plus a decent sized buy on F-35s.

Could be the Brits are just helping out.

Blogger Johnny July 20, 2021 10:18 AM  

In Europe when a country first consolidates power the tendency is to be militarily aggressive. That is where China is right now.

If we had half a brain we would be warming up to Russia. Aside from the nuke arsenal they are not that strong a country, and they would be useful in our dealing with China.

Blogger Ferdl July 20, 2021 10:21 AM  

I fully expect that we will eventually find out that the neoclowns run a huge blackmail operation based on information that the secret services collect for them (especially the secret service of their own ethnicity). They use this power to promote other blackmailable people or people who are easy to control by nature (women, morally blind man) in all bureaucracies, publicly traded companies, parliaments, militaries, media, cultural institutions, churches, judiciary system, media and academics. That is why they push degenerate behavior so hard on young people. By doing so they produce a large pool of people which eventually does something blackmail-exploitable. That is why we have all these pedophiles everywhere in positions of power. Pedophile is equivalent with "degenerate promoted by neoclowns".

Blogger English Tom July 20, 2021 10:23 AM  

Or more likely, to cause a war to deflect from the fact the administration is fraudulent.

Blogger Shane Bradman July 20, 2021 10:24 AM  

The real Queen Elizabeth may outlast the HMS Queen Elizabeth.

Blogger Harambe July 20, 2021 10:24 AM  

Ugh the UK navy is even more pozzed and diverse than the US Navy. Rear Admiral is more than just a rank

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 20, 2021 10:33 AM  

1990s Yugoslavia, and its downstream Kosovo proxy conflict and NATO occupation, is a recent and position-flipped example of major powers pissing in each others' sand-boxes and ww3 nuclear confrontation not being a danger. This isn't 1962 anymore with red phones, it's clear that there is communication going on up and down the entire government apparatus of China, USA, and Russia - even if it's on a corporate or financial level with the respective militaries taking orders and not setting policy. Example: 9/11 -> invasion of Central Asia.

China and the USA, or China and the UK, could conceivably have a short and contained conventional war under these conditions:
1) A long-disputed territory with a far greater interest for one side over the other. Example: Taiwan, or its opposite, North Korea. China is not going to ww3 over NK.
2) The conflict is over quickly, not giving the losing side a chance to reinforce, escalate, or bring in allies. This rule disqualifies the Black Sea as a self-contained conflict, because Turkey is close and would definitely be dragged into it.

If China (for example) made a play for Diego Garcia, or overtly sponsored separatists in India, that would be an escalation past their regional capabilities - and could extend a conflict into an upward-escalating full-blast war. But area denial between the Philipinnes, Taiwan, is something attainable.

Blogger Francisca July 20, 2021 10:35 AM  

China is piggy-backing its way to global hegemony by sponging off US full-spectrum dominance keep the trade routes open. In no way should China ever attack a US or UK warship--these forces are serving China's interests. The smart US strategic move would be to withdraw naval power and to force China to expend resources policing the high seas. At this point some "terrorist" attacks on Chinese naval forces could act as a drain on their resources.

The current status-quo serves China so well that I cannot see them upsetting it. The Zionists know exactly what is coming and they know they have no levers to manipulate China. So, yes, it will be the Neocons who desperately roll the dice.

Blogger Jab Burrwalky July 20, 2021 10:36 AM  

That explanation makes more sense than the surface level info alone, which suggests Britain is trying to pretend its a world power again.

Blogger MST July 20, 2021 11:07 AM  

Well Harambe, at least the Royal Navy is bringing back one tradition.

1. Rum? Nope. Totally haram.

2. The Lash? Nope. Physical discipline gives people badfeels.

Kinda narrows down the list.

Blogger bramley bramley bramley July 20, 2021 11:10 AM  

The Royal Navy didn't kill itself

Blogger pyrrhus July 20, 2021 11:12 AM  

The Neoclowns don't usually use stalking horses..it's a rare sign of caution, with a serious downside..I can't see "remember the Queen Elizabeth" as a rallying cry for war.

Blogger SonyAD July 20, 2021 11:15 AM  

I wonder if they could intercept Kh-22 missiles. And also why the Russians retired those Kh-22. Unless it's because the Kinzhal is vastly superior. Or the Kh-22 could only be deployed using large bombers.

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 20, 2021 11:19 AM  

British navy is probably less apt to bump into anything.

What's wrong with Japan having their own navy? It's not like they are going to attack Hawaii again. Not after they bought half the place up. Heck the japs were good at doing Navy stuff it would be great to see them at it again on their own dime.

Blogger Jack Ward July 20, 2021 11:23 AM  

And here we are just a bit over a week from going into August.
I hope Mike Lindale is right about Trump being reinstated or at least a new election monitored very closely by those parts of the military still loyal to the Constitution.
Even with Trump back my strategy depends on the fruits he produces, not his words per se. Trust has to be earned anew.

Blogger Joe July 20, 2021 11:28 AM  

Recalls the Fall of Singapore and the loss of the Repulse and Prince of Wales.

Blogger Pick a side YT July 20, 2021 11:29 AM  

It's cool that the UK hired a retired NBA player as its Defense Minister.

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 11:33 AM  

The Chink in this armor is that if Japan is being used to service Brit ships, the Chinese will not have any qualms about using Japan to service its many single Chinese men — perhaps to say, “comfort” them.

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 11:33 AM  

The Chink in this armor is that if Japan is being used to service Brit ships, the Chinese will not have any qualms about using Japan to service its many single Chinese men — perhaps to say, “comfort” them.

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 11:33 AM  

The Chink in this armor is that if Japan is being used to service Brit ships, the Chinese will not have any qualms about using Japan to service its many single Chinese men — perhaps to say, “comfort” them.

Blogger Ryan July 20, 2021 11:35 AM  

Call and raise? Dealer, that's a string bet.

Blogger Akulkis July 20, 2021 11:39 AM  

>> If we had half a brain we would be warming up to Russia.

Russia was the first to oppose the Brits AND support us behind the scenes in the 1770s. The French arms shipments were paid for by Catherine the Great. Although the Russians wouldn't officially recognize the American diplomatic mission, they did listen to the envoys,which leads to Catherine advising the French to open diplomatic ties.

The favor was repaid after the war by sending Admiral John Paul Jones to establish the Imperial Russian Navy.

Blogger Steve Rodger July 20, 2021 11:42 AM  

Chinese clains to the south china sea has no legal merit. Those are international waters and the west still depends on Taiwan for their computer chips. The black sea on the other hand has substantial legal backing limiting military ships there, so doing a naval exercise with 30 countries there looks like the major provocation in my humble opinion, not Taiwan as endemic thyphons almost year long are still the greatest challenge that the Chinese would have to surpass in order to invade that island. The original 'kamikase' that destroyed kublai khan's fleet.

Blogger Ahuehuete July 20, 2021 11:50 AM  

It would be interesting to see how the MSM would try to spin one of our gigabuck aircraft carriers being sent to Davey Jones' Locker by a hypersonic missile; and how the American people would react.

Of course the real question is how will the Neo-Clowns react? Would they retaliate (and thus escalate), or would they back off, while talking big?

Blogger xevious2030 July 20, 2021 12:01 PM  

Dumping sand on high spots in the ocean, and then claiming maximum buffer, in order to provide exclusive access to those waters, is worthy of war. Offering up loans for likely huge land grabs, is worthy of war. It is so, if Prometheans do it, and it is so, if the Chinese do it.

A greater probability is that both Korea and Taiwan are playing out, in terms of usefulness, for political pressure, and that these centers and bounds of pressure are being devised elsewhere, resetting confrontation to year zero. Cold War II, except with Chinese or (((Chinese))) families supplying both sides, rather than German or (((German))) families and such. Or “Republicans” and “Democrats,” played out on a global scale.

China isn’t amassing forces around and offering loans within Israel, and anti-China violent revolutions are not occurring in places China has invested heavily in. These things are part of narrative. They speak.

And war is not always war.

Blogger Crew July 20, 2021 12:02 PM  

@8: Rum, buggery and the lash!

Blogger Crew July 20, 2021 12:02 PM  

I think the Russians will let the Chinese take the lead here ... and keep their real capabilities secret.

Blogger Nate July 20, 2021 12:04 PM  

Oh no. The crying chinese may threaten to nuke someone again. The terror.

Blogger Brett baker July 20, 2021 12:20 PM  

We don't need half a brain, just some sense. And the neoclowns aren't as sensible as they like to think.

Blogger Wazdakka July 20, 2021 12:41 PM  

"deploying two naval vessels to waters surrounding Japan"
Half the fleet committed to the Pacific?

Blogger KingKrawFish July 20, 2021 12:48 PM  

It must be known that these naval ships are sitting ducks...if China does actually fire on UK/US ships, will Russia & Iran also target specific UK/US military assets w/i their reach?

Blogger Ahuehuete July 20, 2021 12:51 PM  

"The real Queen Elizabeth may outlast the HMS Queen Elizabeth."

If the Royal Navy has half a brain, they will keep it out of harm's way, and send some expendable corvette to challenge Russian territorial waters. In fact, that might be the goal, to have the Russians sink one paint them as the aggressors and then call for sanctions against Russia.

Blogger 7916 July 20, 2021 1:05 PM  

I think that the discussion topics on SG about the breakup of Yugoslavia and the inability of people to believe in the conflict's intensity when it was right on their doorstep applies to the Prometheans here. They will continue to project their own worldview on the Chinese, and will try to use oil and its supply chain against them.

I think they will find that its not going to work, because the Chinese, Russians, and Iranians aren't like them and will soon be sharing logistics links that can't easily be broken.

Blogger bw July 20, 2021 1:19 PM  

and they've never had more influence over an administration than they do over the fraudulent Biden one

Absurd. They've owned it for 4 decades.
Just look at the last Faces' family and bailout. He was "bowed out" under an Op just like GHWB.
Mission Accomplished, they did.

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 1:25 PM  

Yesterday, I was on the Florida coast in a coffee shop where I overheard a conversation between a Brit, a Chinese, and a German all boasting about their respective country’s naval capabilities.

The Englishman boldly claimed "Her Highness’ Royal submarines can last a month under water without ever having to go up!".

The Chinese laughs and says "That's nothing. The People’s Republic new submarines can last half a year under water without ever having to go up!"

Both looked at the German who remained silent the whole conversation when suddenly a submarine emerged from the water alongside the boardwalk and a man jumped out shouting: "Heil Hitler, ve need fuel!”

Blogger Fishslinger_Bear July 20, 2021 1:41 PM  

Why would they wait for China or Russia to hit them? If China and Russia are smart, and the appear to be, they will just have some tugs push them back into international waters. They seem smarter and appear to have learned from Japan's mistake in taking the bait.

All the neoclowns really need is proximity to one of their ships. All this talk about it is just setting up the narrative. I'm guessing when the time is right the USN will do it themselves, if they can do it without screwing it up. That is the neoclowns' preferred historical M.O. See USS. Maine, Gulf of Tonkin, Twin Towers, etc., etc.

Blogger Slippin JImmy July 20, 2021 1:46 PM  

Japan has a large navy and they've recently indicated that they might get involved on Taiwan's behalf.

Blogger Countrylawyer July 20, 2021 1:48 PM  

Hmmm....the HMS Prince of Wales and the HMS Repulse say “hi”.

Blogger bramley bramley bramley July 20, 2021 1:51 PM  

Probably a good time to post this genius bit of (outdated) satire:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B076O8-PzH4

Blogger White Patriarch July 20, 2021 1:56 PM  

I'm not dying for globohomo...

Blogger David Stanley July 20, 2021 2:03 PM  

Rum, sodomy and the lash....its traditional in the senior service.

Blogger Unknown July 20, 2021 2:05 PM  

+100 brother.
Thats probably a good approximation. Epstein wasn't the only agent of degeneracy. His Mossad handler claimed that prominent businessmen were targeted (Imagine all the insider trading foreknowledge, the suprisingly cheap sales, the new media comapnies sold to you know who so they could retain narrative control).
Truly the synagogue of Satan, leaving a trail of slimy astroglide wherever they slither. You can smell the lies, false accusations, and projections. Gnat straining and camel ignoring. They behave like who they worship.

Blogger bw July 20, 2021 2:09 PM  

They will continue to project their own worldview on the Chinese, and will try to use oil and its supply chain against them

Unless they've already owned it for 200 yrs and this is just another show for the true believers

Oil is paper, and paper is $ and power

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 2:18 PM  

Is West prepared for China to turn the 15th to 30th Parallel East of 120th Meridian into a macroscopic scale of Sarajevo’s Zmaja od Bosne Street and Meša Selimović Boulevard — Sniper Alley? And depending on Japan’s role, the Chinese are probably happy to extend that to the 45th parallel.

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 2:21 PM  

The proxy war consists of blacklisting Jackie Chan from Hollywood.

Blogger Br1cht July 20, 2021 2:37 PM  

And Israel just got caught giving Chyna US Mil Tech.

Blogger Unknown July 20, 2021 2:39 PM  

And to service the lady.

Blogger Newscaper312 July 20, 2021 2:52 PM  

@Canadian Warlord

My first thought whenever I hear OMG South China Sea! Is that most of the shipping through there is to/from *China* itself. Sure losing some access results in some longer transit times for goods to Japan or Phillipines, but not a strategic show stopper.

Blogger DrivingDissent July 20, 2021 3:34 PM  

Russia will not survive friendship with China.. China is the kinda "freind" that will poison you for years with a carcinogen and then celebrate his cleverness with a duper delight smirk while comforting your wife at your funeral.. Never trust a serpent they may be both clever and wise but they are never worthy of trust.

Blogger OneWingedShark July 20, 2021 3:39 PM  

Jack Ward wrote:And here we are just a bit over a week from going into August.
I hope Mike Lindale is right about Trump being reinstated or at least a new election monitored very closely by those parts of the military still loyal to the Constitution.
Even with Trump back my strategy depends on the fruits he produces, not his words per se. Trust has to be earned anew.

"Trump reinstatement" would be killing the Constitution:
1) The counting of the electors' votes, on Jan 6th, is the validation and certification that they are valid.
2) Due to the negligence/malevolence of Pence and Congress, they certified and counted votes that were clearly at least questionable.
3) Therefore, Constitutionally, Biden is indeed President.
4) The only way to remove a President is impeachment (or the 'incapacitated' amendment).
5) THE CORRECT WAY TO REMEDY A FRAUDULENT ELECTION IS NOT TO 'GIVE IT TO THE RUNNER UP' (this only shifts the goal of fraud to 'come in second'), BUT RATHER TO HOLD A NEW, TRUE, HONEST ELECTION.
This bullshit "Trump reinstatement" is exactly the sort of thing we saw with McCain/Obama & Romney/Obama -- ALL of these people had plausible arguments against being "natural born", and thus this was an assault on the Constitution's "Natural Born Citizen" requirement.
(The Globalists HATE the NBC-requirement because of its overt nationalism.)

Akulkis wrote:>> If we had half a brain we would be warming up to Russia.
Russia was the first to oppose the Brits AND support us behind the scenes in the 1770s. The French arms shipments were paid for by Catherine the Great. Although the Russians wouldn't officially recognize the American diplomatic mission, they did listen to the envoys,which leads to Catherine advising the French to open diplomatic ties.
The favor was repaid after the war by sending Admiral John Paul Jones to establish the Imperial Russian Navy.

The US and Russia have always been friends, except for that short time Russia was under control of (((Russians))) and now that the US is under control of (((Americans))).
Truth be told, the only reason we aren't fast friends with Russia is because of (((allies))) and Boomers.

Blogger BeatYourHeadIn July 20, 2021 3:55 PM  

"The United Kingdom has announced plans to permanently deploy a fleet"

"Permanently deploy"

Open admission that the vessels will not be returning home, ostensibly with the expectation that they will be sunk, mayhaps?

Blogger sumdudesfrysauce July 20, 2021 4:03 PM  

I know this has happened in the past and don't doubt for a moment it's still going on. Do you have a link? I've got an "Israel is our ally" acquaintance I'd like to send this to.

Blogger Andrew July 20, 2021 4:31 PM  

The USG may be my enemy but so is the CCP. I would rather have the USG keep the CCP in line than let the CCP acquire global supremacy.

Blogger Nihil Dicit July 20, 2021 4:33 PM  

(this only shifts the goal of fraud to 'come in second')

That makes zero sense. What good would coming in second through fraud do, if the winner was legit?

Blogger OneWingedShark July 20, 2021 5:22 PM  

7916 wrote:I think that the discussion topics on SG about the breakup of Yugoslavia and the inability of people to believe in the conflict's intensity when it was right on their doorstep applies to the Prometheans here. They will continue to project their own worldview on the Chinese, and will try to use oil and its supply chain against them.
I think they will find that its not going to work, because the Chinese, Russians, and Iranians aren't like them and will soon be sharing logistics links that can't easily be broken.

It works the other way, too.
The Americans aren't like them either, and the people of the US are fed up with the foreign rulers, even if they don't know they're foreign. Boomers are in an odd state of schizophrenia here: they're pissed at the elite, yet tend toward worship/idolatry of (((greatest ally))).

Newscaper312 wrote:@Canadian Warlord
My first thought whenever I hear OMG South China Sea! Is that most of the shipping through there is to/from *China* itself. Sure losing some access results in some longer transit times for goods to Japan or Phillipines, but not a strategic show stopper.

Mine is "sink the ships".

Blogger OneWingedShark July 20, 2021 5:29 PM  

Nihil Dicit wrote:(this only shifts the goal of fraud to 'come in second')
That makes zero sense. What good would coming in second through fraud do, if the winner was legit?

So you're saying that Biden won legitimately?
Or are you missing the fact that (a) the 'reinstatement' theory rests on "Trump won, but was crowded out by fraud", and (b) reinstating Trump would, by necessity, be giving the Presidency to "second place" in a fraudulent election, leading to (c) the validation of fraud in an election.
Now, since fraud cannot be legitimate, "(c)" is a contradiction, and therefore invalid.

This is known in the math-world as Proof by Contradiction.

Blogger Silly but True July 20, 2021 5:36 PM  

Russians understand that life in Russia is just people exploiting people, but life under Chinese rule will just be the other way around..

Blogger English Tom July 20, 2021 5:55 PM  

@Slippin Jimmy

Japan has a very large, capable navy and the Japs are in the process of massively expanding their marine force.

Japan will have no option but to get involved if China invades Taiwan as who controls the waters around Taiwan controls access to Japan.

There is also some very bad blood between China/Japan based on recent historical events, see: the Rape of Nanking by Amy Chan for a deeper insight.

Blogger B.R. July 20, 2021 5:56 PM  

Remember your Sun Tzu: "Project strength where you are weak, and weakness where you are strong."

Where is China pretending to be strong?
Where are they pretending to be weak?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 20, 2021 6:06 PM  

OWS, if evidence of fraud throws the election to the loser, then eventually actual fraud is replaced by fraudulent accusations of fraud by the loser of an election which was actually honest.

What ever. The important point is that you are right, the correct remedy is to hold a second election, with in person voting, purple ink and honest counting.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton July 20, 2021 6:46 PM  

@#28, Crew. When I took Latin in high school, I wondered why the Latin word for sailor (nauta) had a feminine ending. Finding that out disgusted me.

Blogger English Tom July 20, 2021 7:12 PM  

@sumdudesfrysauce

Check out the work of Brendon O'Connell on youtube. He has a lot to say about the Israel/China relationship and how Israel is positioning itself to be the controller of the BRI (Belt Road Initiative).

Blogger Doom July 20, 2021 8:59 PM  

Oh, him? The kid, who was expendable, who would be sent in to grab the old man's fresh tomatoes or cucumbers. If he could do it, we all would. Or, at least, we all would "share". If he got caught... we'd wait a while. Hell yea, I remember that game. As the youngest, I got set to that duty a few times. As one of the smarter, I didn't do it for long. There was always a more gullible stooge.

Look, the whole thing is gaslighting, all the way around. If you think Russia isn't playing right along, or China, you are kidding yourself. Yes, sure, some may have to die to "prove" it is all for real. But it isn't. Even if we go to nuclear war, that was a decision by all parties, mostly if the sheep neither believe nor give a shit anymore. *wink*

Don't think any of it is any more real than the risks of kunflu, or the efficacy of the vax. But... I suspect you know that. I hope you do.

Blogger Andrew July 20, 2021 9:04 PM  

Make Formosa Japan Again.

Blogger Beery Swine July 20, 2021 11:36 PM  

Robert Pinkerton wrote:@#28, Crew. When I took Latin in high school, I wondered why the Latin word for sailor (nauta) had a feminine ending. Finding that out disgusted me.

My thousand-yard stare from thinking about the world just got a few yards longer.

Blogger Akulkis July 24, 2021 7:57 PM  

>> Heck the japs were good at doing Navy stuff it would be great to see them at it again on their own dime.

They really aren't.

They thought that buying British-made ships and then, after a few decades, designing their own in monkey-see, monkey-do fashion, that they could have a first-class navy.

Problem. 1886: Sino-Japanese war. Defeated the even more technologically-incompetent Chinese navy. Won the crucial battle using torpedoes.

1906 Russo-Japanese War, Battle of Tsushima. 3 fleets sent from western Russia, AROUND THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE, to defend the Russian concession around Port Arthur, Korea, where the war started. 1st fleet was ill-prepated for the ship. One ship had constant "enemy sightings"... Before even reaching Skagerrak marking the divide between the Baltic and the North Sea. Continues reporting enemy contacts on the open ocean. Near Dogger Bank, spots more enemy warships.... English fishing vessels. Opens fire. Obtains no hits, but fleet loses refueling privileges (which they were counting on) at all British ports along the route.
Has to resort to refueling at sea. No, notoil through hoses. COAL in bucket from colliers. Reduced fuel forces fuel conservation measures, fleet slows to under 10 knots most of the way.
Crewmen contract various diseases in African ports. Surviving crews are demoralized and exhausted upon arrival.

Admiral returned to Russia from 1st fleet for insubordination (including demand for sending every wretched scow in the Russian Navy, upon arrival I St. Petersburg, convinced the Admiralty that the plan rejected by the 1st Fleet's Admiral is a good one. Obtains a 2nd fleet, consisting of obsolete shops which were never built for sailing on the Atlantic (They were built for strictly Baltic Sea service). Crews are impressed farmers from the interior provinces, who don't know anything about sailing. Fleet must sail ASAP, so gunnery training is skipped. Chases 1st fleet with wretched ships. Somehow managed to catch 1st fleet near Straights of Mullacca (Indonesia).
A third fleet of even more pathetic ships and crews is also dispatched. Grim outcome.

At Tsushima, 1st fleet is exhausted, undermanned, and fed up. 2nd fleet's crews are naively optimistic, because they have no idea of how much they don't know.
Japan easily defeats Russian 1st fleet ships, primarily by use of torpedoes.

Japan now has two very lopsided victories in 20 years, with torpedoes doing the majority of the critical damage.

Japanese pilots operate from British carrier during WW1, flying raids against the German concession territory within China. No Japanese swabbies operate on the carrier, just squadron personnel.

Japan think torpedoes are wonder weapons. Also, managed to lose no major ships in any of these battles. So, defensive doctrine (armor, damage control, design for damage, etc.) is dismissed by Imperial Japanese Navy as a waste of materials, time,effort, and manpower.

Japan go to war against American Navy, which has its origins in fighting the largest, most efficient navy on the planet -- the British Royal Navy. American navy has had fleet vs fleet exercises for decades. Has learned the importance of carriers must have their own scouts, dedicated to that type of operation. Uses dive bombers so after enemy is found, the scouts can serve as attackers.
American ships have SIGNIFICANT anti-torpedo defences (torpedo blisters, and other architecture to minimize the impact of torpedo detonations)

US. Navy is dive-bomber heavy. Japanese anti-aircraft directors, analog gunnery computers and guns are limited in both elevation angles AND maximum target speed. Results: American dive bombers, carrying 500lb bombs with armor piercing nosecaps, impacting at over 500 miles per hour, are unimpeded by deck armor on the order of 50 mm (2 inches) or less, and American ships are designed to take damage, their crews are, to a man, trained to fight fires and conduct damage control and repair.

Japs report USS Saratoga sunk.

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